Live Letter Has WARNED: Collision is Changing

Float now, for it might not be possible after this patch.

I wish I decorated houses for others because I could be charging a PREMIUM right now.

They were talking about things like character collision, how your character interacts with other physical objects. Which doesn't necessarily mean anything with housing will change and I don't recall them saying anything about housing glitches at all.

They can't even get housing right, what makes you think they would "fix" anything in it? It's like their home made version of COVID. Curious to know about, but don't get near it.

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

They were talking about things like character collision, how your character interacts with other physical objects. Which doesn't necessarily mean anything with housing will change and I don't recall them saying anything about housing glitches at all.

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From the unofficial translation in the FFXIV subreddit Discord

YoshiP: "There might be some things, mainly in housing because of floating items, that won't be possible after this collision update anymore. We tried to keep as many of them as they are right now, if something broke please let us know so we can try to reverse it"

With luck, it's just some of the more extreme glitches utilizing the out of bounds hacks that will be affected and not the relatively simple floating tricks we use. But I won't be surprised to find items we had floating away from walls and floors snapping back to them because the game decided they were close enough.

Yoshi P. said, "there might be some things, mainly in housing, because of these floating items that won't be possible after this collision update."

I would float things now based off that comment.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

I would float things now based off that comment.

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Alternately, that may mean don't put the effort into floating things now, because gravity will catch up with them when these changes take effect.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

From the unofficial translation in the FFXIV subreddit Discord

YoshiP: "There might be some things, mainly in housing because of floating items, that won't be possible after this collision update anymore. We tried to keep as many of them as they are right now, if something broke please let us know so we can try to reverse it"

With luck, it's just some of the more extreme glitches utilizing the out of bounds hacks that will be affected and not the relatively simple floating tricks we use. But I won't be surprised to find items we had floating away from walls and floors snapping back to them because the game decided they were close enough.

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I missed that line, it was getting early by that point. It sounds like Yoshi isn't sure what, if any, impact it would have on housing but acknowledged there could be an impact.
Last time they made a change to housing glitches it was the ability to put things in the void. At the time, anything that was currently placed in a void would stay there but you couldn't do any new placements. Most likely this will be similar, anything already in place will be unaffected but anything new may be more difficult to do. Because he's talking about collision the changes are probably in the bounding box and how many interaction points it has for detection. I don't think they'd change the size of the bounding box for every item in the game; that would be a nightmarish amount of work. If its just detecting the bounding box then it will mean you can't float things as far into the walls or ceiling as before and some objects like the display cases may not overlap as much.

Why not just give us the tools and let us able to put items in a 4D space, it worked with a game like Starwars Galaxies and it predates this game here by far.... buy house place somewhere.. decorate anyway that want to... being able to raise and lower things.. rotate... even bank curves and more.

Why can't we have it like that in FFXIV, that is supposed to be a modern game, it more seem like gameplay devolved.

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

I missed that line, it was getting early by that point. It sounds like Yoshi isn't sure what, if any, impact it would have on housing but acknowledged there could be an impact.
Last time they made a change to housing glitches it was the ability to put things in the void. At the time, anything that was currently placed in a void would stay there but you couldn't do any new placements. Most likely this will be similar, anything already in place will be unaffected but anything new may be more difficult to do. Because he's talking about collision the changes are probably in the bounding box and how many interaction points it has for detection. I don't think they'd change the size of the bounding box for every item in the game; that would be a nightmarish amount of work. If its just detecting the bounding box then it will mean you can't float things as far into the walls or ceiling as before and some objects like the display cases may not overlap as much.

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Hopefully it is just the bounding box but that will still cause the issues you mention. I tend to float a lot of things partially into the walls and ceilings because they're not the size I want (the Wooden Loft and Trouple/Round Stage being good examples) so I have to get creative with placement. I could still overlap them when they're not large enough (though I would have to choose between not creating a perfectly level surface or suffering through the visual distortion when they overlap) but that would leave me in a bind when I only want a half or quarter sized loft.

Another example of how if we had the tools for vertical placement and resizing like other MMO housing provides, we wouldn't need to resort to the glitches and tricks we frequently use.

I know SE does listen even if they don't always respond. They know that housing is wildly popular and players do some amazing work with it despite the limitations that can help promote the game. I can only hope that they've been listening and now they're ready to put some time and effort into updating the way item placement works. It will be a shame if they're letting housing stagnate for the sake of giving us WoW Garrisons (since Island Sanctuary seems to be the content most likely to compete with housing for development time).