Which Ascians are left? (Spoilers up to 5.4 obviously)

If 6.0 is going to be the end of the current storyline, then besides Fandaniel we're going to need to wrap up the other remaining Ascians too, whether through defeat, reconciliation, or some other option. Because as long as Ascians are around they're going to be trying to revive Zodiark, so that storyline won't end until they're all either gone or become good guys like Loghrif did.

Halmarut
Deudalaphon
Altima
Pashtarot

Are all four of these still around? Even if they're all part of Fandaniel's group and will be dealt with in 6.0, that's kind of a lot to fight over the course of one patch. Personally I hope that we'll actually be working with them to stop Fandaniel and the Final Days since the Ancients didn't want that either, but that would still end with four Ascians still being around after 6.0 is over.

Not to mention if Lahabrea is coming back then Igeyorhm might too. Though we'll need to see the context for Lahabrea's appearance to be sure.

Considering how Altima turned against her creators in FF12, I do suspect Altima will either be one of Fandango's group, or basically have just decided to live their own life with the knowledge and powers that came from being risen to the post (a form of betrayal).

I believe Altima and Pashtarot have cameod in ARR, so we know they are Active Ascians. Halmarut and Deudalaphon have not been mentioned as far as I know.

Getting all 5 in EW seems rushed but at the same time I wouldn't like the Hydaelin/Zodiark story to finish with those loose threads...

Anonymoose did a thread a while ago stating each Ascian overlord and their present known status, and whereabouts, most recently updated for patch 5.4, so it's up to date, which can be found here.

Basically though, to answer your question, their current whereabouts are unknown - it's possible they're each on the four remaining Shards not yet rejoined, but nothing is known for certain.

And consider we dont know how they handle it, they might have more then one awoken, just in other shards - or already made some of the killed ones anew and just sent them away...

Don't forget about Schrodinger's Emmerololth.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Anonymoose did a thread a while ago stating each Ascian overlord and their present known status, and whereabouts, most recently updated for patch 5.4, so it's up to date, so it can be here.

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I also keep this short-hand thing going for when I need a quick reference, lol.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...00/unknown.png

Might need to add a WTF for Lahahahahahahahaha in 6.0. Also is Elidibus dead-dead or is his soul just locked in the tower?

From what I believe, the only completely destroyed Ascians are Lahabrea, Elidibus, and Emet-Selch. They were the ones who weren't fragmented.

If I understood well, the other Ascians are the fragmented ones, so lets say: When Igeyorhm was destroyed in 3.0, we actually destroyed one of her fragments, so the Ascians maybe selected another of Igeyorhm's versions to put her in the seat. The same with the rest (so there would still be a Nabriales, Emmerololth, etc... around there). But then, if 2.5's Nabriales was the last living one of his 13 shards, then yup, Nabriales is no more. No one is in his seat anymore.

At least, I understand that.

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Originally Posted by Veloran

Might need to add a WTF for Lahahahahahahahaha in 6.0.

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Ahaha, I'm waiting until we see what's actually up when we get there.
Otherwise I'd have put WTF on him being on the 5.4 artwork. >_>

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Originally Posted by Veloran

Also is Elidibus dead-dead or is his soul just locked in the tower?

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I can look into that if you can tell me why anyone thinks anything other than "G'raha discharged all of the energy prsently in the Crystal Tower directly into Elidibus's face and destroyed him" happened. I can't see any other interpretation but I have been wrong before, lol.

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Harnessing the Crystal Tower's vast reservoir of energy, he strips the primal of his power and entraps his scattered essence. Before the Ascian fades into oblivion, however, you choose to restore his lost memories to him, granting him a semblance of peace at the last.

Die schier unendliche Energie des Kristallturms entfesselnd, beraubt er den Ascian seiner Unsterblichkeit und bannt dessen Essenz.

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EDIT
It looks like Japanese uses the characters 塔に封じ (to seal within the tower) which might explain some of the ambiguous verbs and confusion among fans. I can't imagine that the writers want to leave Elidibus on the table so if he's still intact in the tower, one wonders how they intend to go back to the First, let him out, and finish him off. That was the whole issue with leaving the Eyes of Nidhogg in the wind - Lahabrea was still in them, unconfirmed to be truly defeated.

Going by the cutscene, what I see is the Crystal Exarch using the energy-absorbtion powers of the Crystal Tower to bind Elidibus in place and absorb a great deal of the power he'd accumulated (white auracite), then discharge everything the tower had directly into his face (blade of Light) to shear his essence asunder. Visually, we see the luminous aether flowing outwards, and then his "pyreflies" scatter and float away. And then right in that moment of clarity, the tower eats them, which is probably what's confusing everyone. Was what the tower ate still him or just his un-re-assemblable aetherial LEGOs?

I guess it's on Square Enix to help clear that up, huh? lol

If I'm wrong and "he" is still in there, I would speculate that it's for the conclusion of Zodiark somehow, but how?
So I'm leaning towards, "It's an ambiguous scene due to the art choices but he dead."