Having finished both Carpenter and Miner as of this moment, I can say that this final stage has left me somewhat disappointed. The increase in stats compared to fully melded Aesthete tools is not good.
For crafting tool melding, it is common to maximize control and leave a single slot for cp. With an Aesthete tool with two control materia 8 and 7 each, it beats out the Skybuilder tool by 18 control. The Skybuilder tools have 46 more craftsmanship, but that amount isn't helping me do anything more efficiently.
Gatherer tools are a similar tale in which the stat upgrades given to the tool do not allow for say hitting gathering breakpoints much more easily.
As a side note, I don't like that they removed the ability to dye them. Sure you can hardly see their color when the glow is out but I don't see the need to remove that bit of customization.
In summation, the Skysteel tools to me feel almost pointless as someone who is heavily invested in crafting and gathering. The glows look nice, and I'm fond of some of the models. But I feel the effort involved, especially considering the final step is expert crafts, were not repaid. Personally I would quite like if you could adjust stats manually like you're able to for battle relics, or at the very least make it undoubtedly better than the Aesthete.
The final phase of the Skysteel tools feel Underwhelming
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02-04-2021, 08:06 AMKoyaMusaThe final phase of the Skysteel tools feel Underwhelming
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02-04-2021, 08:24 AMEclipse12187
They’re objectively worse compared to a pentamelded aesthete tool unfortunately :/ just the fact that I have to do diadem and expert crafts is keeping me from doing any of them until next level cap when I can just use trained eye on them.
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02-04-2021, 08:31 AMKurokaAssuming they let us use that on Experts lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Eclipse12187
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02-04-2021, 09:00 AMAurturia
Even if they dont let you use trained eye the stat boost of level 90 gear will trivialize it
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02-04-2021, 09:11 AMTurtlesAWD
I feel like long term the benefit of relic tools has always been the cosmetics right? The weapons are never the best, and these are apparently at least comparable to aesthetes if what I've read is accurate.
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02-04-2021, 09:33 AMQooErfinal stage relics for battle jobs have always been BiS. they are always of the same ilv of savage weapons, but with full substats that they let you pick. Ergo, they are unambiguously the best weapons for their respective expansion; they have more stats AND they also let you pick the stats you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD
contrast with skybuilder tools, which dont even have capped substats, you cant allocate the stats however you want, and to top it off end up being arguably worse than the tool 20 item levels below it.
ultimately it doesn't matter cause you can keep using the same old aesthetes tool for everything you've already been using it for... except with the relic glammed on top. -
02-04-2021, 10:15 AMTurtlesAWDYeah I suppose that's true though they're typically introduced quite a bit later right? Which is pretty in line with when we got these relics since there's not going to be a new tier of crafted items this expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by QooEr
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02-10-2021, 06:20 AMTattersailNightwish
Granted my fully melded HQ Aesthete set IS better.
But the latest relics look so cool.. so good for glamour if nothing else. -
05-16-2021, 07:33 AMBerkilakI just cranked this out and... disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by TattersailNightwish
The shiny sparkles are awesome, sure, but losing the ability to dye them is just puzzling.