Light Party Restriction In Frontlines

Please remove the light party restriction for frontlines.

I understand the original intent was to prevent premades from "dominating" games but with the 24 player mode gone its honestly just become a restriction to play with more than 3 friends at a time now. A full party in 72 player mode doesn't have nearly as much influence if any at times.

Majority of players play PvP casually and you've catered the system towards a more casual player base, so why restrict players who enjoy it from playing together?

I know I'm probably going to get a ton of backlash for posting this but please consider removing it for the sake of the PvP community who enjoys playing it beyond just the rewards it has to offer.

hell yeah!

As it stands now just a four player stack can still pretty heavily decide a match. PvP is such that the top four DPS for example can have more effective productivity (damage, total kills, kills on important targets, coordination, disruption, etc.) than all of the rest of that alliance combined, and decide battles pretty fast. I appreciate the notion of trying to have as many people in a larger party able to stick together, but I think letting eight stacks back in is going to ultimately make the game worse for the casual player. I feel four stacks, while they can still be potent, increases the likelihood of separating power (though RNG can still allow pretty stacked teams).

I would have to disagree.

100% please remove the LP restriction for frontlines.

yeah makes no sense to restrict it to 4 players. they already cater enough to casuals. soon theres just gonna be two button pvp. its not fair to hurt the veterans/players who enjoy pvp and wanna get better to make the experience better for people just there to get marks and not contribute.

well a 4 stack cant decide anything if the team is uncoordinated. making the game better for the casual player makes it worse for the veteran/players who want to get better. isnt fair to hurt those who actually enjoy pvp and wanna improve to make it easier for the players who just queue up, press one button and get easy rewards. we already have an extremely gutted pvp. this mindset is gonna lead to 1 button pvp with everyone getting rewards just for queueing in.

Yes! Get rid of the party restriction. In a 72 man match a group of 8 isn't going to cause that team to dominate the others. We just want to play with friends. While i have always hated the change i do understand it when it came to 24 man matches. But those are no more so the LP restriction should also, be no more.

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Originally Posted by Rumari

Yes! Get rid of the party restriction. In a 72 man match a group of 8 isn't going to cause that team to dominate the others. We just want to play with friends. While i have always hated the change i do understand it when it came to 24 man matches. But those are no more so the LP restriction should also, be no more.

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As someone who was there for 100 consecutive freelancing losses during Nadaam's first week... no. Good riddance to it. A mere 4 people can do insane amount of work if they're kept healed enough, a full team coordinating around known map exploits and what-not? No thanks.

A lot of the PvP's quality comes down to the players, and more importantly how they approach the match. Team stacking inevitably just results in some of the most boring matches around, with one team stomping around anything in sight, and then the one team not getting stomped as much coming after the one that's been fighting non-stop with nothing to show for it. While that still exists, it'd be far worse on fully stacked frontlines.

If you're on the receiving end of this kind of behavior a lot, you lose all interest in even fighting. Before they ditched the old system, it was common for some teams to literally just idle waiting for their inevitable ganking. Which is heartbreaking, because everyone that did try ultimately didn't matter at all.

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Originally Posted by Novani

a full team coordinating around known map exploits and what-not? No thanks.

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What exactly are these map exploits you're referring to? I've played PvP since Heavensward and I've never encountered or heard of such things.

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Originally Posted by Novani

As someone who was there for 100 consecutive freelancing losses during Nadaam's first week... no. Good riddance to it. A mere 4 people can do insane amount of work if they're kept healed enough, a full team coordinating around known map exploits and what-not? No thanks.

A lot of the PvP's quality comes down to the players, and more importantly how they approach the match. Team stacking inevitably just results in some of the most boring matches around, with one team stomping around anything in sight, and then the one team not getting stomped as much coming after the one that's been fighting non-stop with nothing to show for it. While that still exists, it'd be far worse on fully stacked frontlines.

If you're on the receiving end of this kind of behavior a lot, you lose all interest in even fighting. Before they ditched the old system, it was common for some teams to literally just idle waiting for their inevitable ganking. Which is heartbreaking, because everyone that did try ultimately didn't matter at all.

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What map exploits exactly? Because for as long as i've been playing pvp i have never seen whatever it is you're talking about. Also, all this fear about full premades just 100% stomping or dominating is so false. There have been times i've gotten on teams with 2-3 other 4 man parties of people i am friends with, and we lose. There was a huge fear before of these large scale parties using voice chat to coordinate and do all these insane team owning tactics that i can tell you, is and never was a thing. Having 8 man parties back is 100% not going to change anything on how things are being played now. It just means the people who enjoy to play this particular thing in game can actually do so with friends. If i can get a party of 8 to do savage or other modes then i should be able to make a party of 8 to que pvp. This is a social game after all. We need to stop taking the social part out of it.