Seriously, it has been years with no updates or even mentions of anything coming. Please just confirm that the system is not getting anymore updates so we can stop holding out hope and then being disappointed when we get nothing.
SE can you please just confirm that Egi glamour is dead?
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10-10-2020, 06:46 AMspf1200SE can you please just confirm that Egi glamour is dead?
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10-10-2020, 07:32 AMShougun
I kind of hope the reason why it is taking so long is because they're considering whether to make the new forms be actual content or just be an image. I mean that I wish we'd get more content than just some images, I feel a little sad if they were like 'yeah whatever Shiva, Ifrit, Garuda, they're all the same so like sure there is no difference' lol. Not that I'm entirely against the glamour concept, although I'd promote more for the Zodiac Espers having counter parts to ours, or the other advance summons, so like Ifrit could be Belias, or in example of our Titan he could also be represented by Sephirot. (Trying to keep a vague theme together, rather than Titan = Shiva = Belias = Odin = Alex = Nothing Matters).
Hoping that they add many new functional pieces of primal content, spend all their resources onto that. Big bucks on new demi, egi, egi+, demiurge, tempus, whatever big cool thing. If they were either going to add egi glamour or not, and they definitely were not going to add a bunch of neat content then of course I'd prefer toys over no toys lol, but kind of hope for 'toys with context'.
With their current vision I don't really care if they do or do not remake of SMN (I think it's fun as is and has nice vibes with the two demi, and I can see the current format evolving/smoothing more primal and gameplay stuff so that's also cool), but I wouldn't argue if someone or SE was going to (so long as it's to add more primal content). Pretty open to whatever people want so long as it doesn't mean removing primal concepts lol.
A further detail example on what new egi might look like would be something like adding Levithan, Shiva, and Ramuh egi, and then adding a second tier to every egi. Such that the 6 egi become demi-lite via some sort of new mechanic and or passive that you obtain after certain level. (Demi-lite taking away the egi's chibi appearance but still being reasonably sized). A new system would be provided that would encourage egi rotation while also maintaining the niche of each egi. For example after a certain completion of your rotation you'd gain a buff that would consume when switching to a new egi, this buff would be timed but instantly removed if you switched back to your previous egi. Meaning you can choose to ignore it if you needed that niche dearly (like titan's shield) but you'd get a big encouragement to cycle your egi and choose between best of two rather than best of one.
Titan - tank
Garuda - AoE
Ifrit - Single Target
Shiva - Balance + Offensive Support (CC)
Ramuh - Recovery / silence (like if you flubbed or if the boss wasn't present on the battle field due to a lull) + Burst
Levithan - Balance + Defensive Support
Hopefully with some extra character built into each one too, even better if each primal out infects your kit slightly, like Titan would gain his hp bar back and auto-cover the SMN and certain damage you do helps restore his hp (like GNB's attacks) and he'd get a lot of his old vibes back (while still being more balanced since you're the target instead of him, he's just covering you, also makes him not feel like a buffer doing stoneskin but an actual tank), Garuda would add movement speed after your actions and increase their radius (perhaps something else more fun), Ifrit adding burn to your attacks that he will increase duration every time he hits a target with, Shiva having a freeze mechanic after a certain stack will freeze (stun) the monsters (lowers damage on bosses) and she has a mix of aoe / single target (that deal a little less than the expert Egi, but the aoe stun would be mega helpful in huge trash pulls if your tank or healer needs just that tiny bit extra help, or if a monster has a 'must stun' move), Ramuh would have some slightly different egi assault mechanics and he'd allow you to burst off him occasionally as well as some semi-random / proc based concepts (like BLM) and as you use him he'd help recover your resources if you goofed and died, spammed raises, and have advantage when there isn't anything going on, Levithan would provide a balanced damage output like Shiva while focusing on team defense (while titan is selfish, Levi is not). There would be situations where each niche would shine, but as we all know often one egi will see WAY more use than the others - with the new cycle mechanic that rewards shifting then you get to choose best of two and because each niche you might be switching up that secondary through the other options depending on the situation.
So that'd be just egi lol. Ideally new demi, or some other new tier, like calling down an Elder Primal move (Odin / Alexander), big splashy limit break like content or whatever. Or toying around with demiurge, idea that temporarily the summoner sweeps themselves off the battle field like Yuna in FFX and you control a closer to full form (still not full form) primal (demi-like). May even keep many of the similar spell buttons, just hyper-tune them. Like if it was Ifrit-demiurge your Ruin might cause you to dash to the target if not near them and do swipe attacks, your fester gaining a charge each attack, your enkindle attacking as a short buff window for you to dump your stacked festers, etc. Clearly would need to be careful that it doesn't become too many systems on top of systems though lol. -
10-10-2020, 07:39 AMlolicon09
I'm amazed there're people who still have some hopes about this
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10-10-2020, 08:23 AMDyvidI think at the very least they should redesign the original three like people have been asking for and add the other 3 original that was mentioned in 2014. Make three melee based (Summon III) and three range based (Summon I). Also as much hate as I'll get for this one, remove Summon II because at this point we don't need a tank pet but allow chocobo companions in instances during undersized parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by spf1200
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10-10-2020, 08:26 AMYencat
They have talked about it, they just haven't actually done anything about it. Which is probably worse.
Source: https://www.cgmagonline.com/2019/05/...naoki-yoshida/Quote:
Press: Any updates on the "Egi glamour" system? I know, I know. A short answer is fine.
NY: Yes, we're still working on it. Look for an update around Patch 5.1 at the earliest.
According to another forum poster (ArcaneCarbuncle) it was again talked about in a live letter rerun in May or June and "it was still happening, but he (Yoshi) wasn't at liberty to talk about it". According to the unofficial translation at least, so make of that what you will. -
10-10-2020, 08:32 AMGreyhawk
They did mention the PvE adjustments in the Live Letter this morning. Of course, they didn't go into detail that I saw (I haven't seen the translation yet), but maybe then? /shrug Either way, it does feel like a dead topic with no mention of it for a long while.
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10-10-2020, 08:37 AMHeulGDarian
Hopefullly they are making ai fixes as well. I think they will probably add them during 6.0, if not then then they will never add them.
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10-10-2020, 08:59 AMspf1200Oh I missed theses. I legit thought we haven't heard anything since they were released. Still kinda lame that they won't say anything sustainable about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yencat
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10-10-2020, 09:31 AMRaikai
Dunno, but I had this theory that it's taking so long to actually hear something tangible on it because they are planning on removing Egis and making SMN more centered around different Demi summons... So an egi glamour system coming before 6.0 would be work for nothing.
It would be nice, in case this happens, that the egis and the carbys became cosmetic companions. -
10-10-2020, 09:56 AMBacent
I'm treating it like the GS ball from the pokemon anime. It was a huge point at one point, but they just threw it to the side and never did anything with it and hoped that people would forget about it.