DPS Meta Data Thread

RDPS = Raid DPS = rDPS = DPS - (damage gained from others' external buffs) + (damage given to others by your own external buffs)
ADPS = Adjusted DPS = aDPS = DPS - (damage gained from a set of specific single target buffs)

In case you are wondering this is averages for 2 weeks, starting with Minimum clear DPS to Maximum clear DPS on for all 4 Savages.
This is why if your data doesn't add up- it's because this data was taken on the last day of the 2 week cycle.

I think it's important to compare Minimum and Maximum Clear damage output with each-other to see how well jobs are balanced, as well as the disparity in-between the lowest percentile and the highest, this list is from Meta-Data Extracted 4/5/2020-4/19/20

<RDPS> (Minimum) {Maximum} [Damage Disparity Ceiling]

<Black Mage> (16,313.68) {18,898.23} [ -2,584.55‬]

<Samurai> (16,262.42) {18,773.14} [-2,510.72‬]

<Summoner> (16,726.89) - {18,738.34} [-2,011.45]

<Dragoon> (15,886.77) {18,206.95} [-2,320.18]

<Red Mage> (15,823.37) {18,174.50} [-2,351.13]

<Ninja> (16,114.82) {18,169.33} [-2,054.51]

<Monk> (15,957.95) {18,119.48} [-2,161.53‬]

<Dancer> (15,054.09) {17,759.04} [-2,704.95‬]

<Machinist> (15,717.33) {17,041.64} [-1,324.3]

<Bard> (15,119.63) {16,882.99} [-1,763.36]
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>ADPS< (Minimum) {Maximum} [Damage Disparity Ceiling]

>Samurai< (16,818.87) {19,673.83} [-2,854.96]

>Summoner< (16,731.35) {18,860.45 } [-2,129.1‬0]

>Black Mage< (16,706.18) {19,672.80} [-2,966.62]

>Machinist< (16,135.03) {17,715.63} [-1,580.6]

>Monk< (16,019.49) {18,444.63} [-2,425.14]

>Dragoon< (15,654.61) {18,128.20} [-2,473.59‬]

>Red Mage< (15,527.88) {17,939.55} [-2,411.67‬]

>Ninja< (15,438.26) {17,772.03} [-2,333.77]‬

>Bard< (14,322.63) {16,101.33} [-1,778.7‬]

>Dancer< (13,289.25) {15,370.95} [ -2,081.7]

This is all cool numbers and all. But maybe give a little more context as to what's actually happening. I mean, having the max damage and min damage recorded on some fights is neat. But which fights ? What gear ? When ?

There's a whole world between E2Savage parses and E8Savage parses as an example and having a melee parse really good on the first one doesn't mean he'll do the same on the second, so giving others more information as to how this data should be interpreted can only be for the better. But that's just my two cents on the subject. :)

Also, everyone who cares about these numbers know where to find them.

Everyone else can use the fight dummy to check if they do ok with their class.

Renkei is just trying to appear in the know while failing to realise that numbers without context are more detrimental than anything. Especially when purely looking at min-max alone which tells nothing of the spread and distribution in between.

If people want solid data on jobs and with regards to encounters and their servers, please check out:

http://rankings.akhmorning.com/jobs/
http://rankings.akhmorning.com/fights/
http://rankings.akhmorning.com/progression/summary/

I've at least put some effort into these pages and am continuously working on the site. The home page is being revised and will be deployed soon.

Can someone explain to me what exactly aDPS is?

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Can someone explain to me what exactly aDPS is?

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adjusted dps, it takes out single target buffs but otherwise ranks on "regular" dps instead of rdps.

dps=the number you would have on a parser, if you used something so vile
rdps=your own damage done in numbers -all the dps you only did because of buffs (group or single) +the dps the group only did because of the buffs you brought along
adps=the number on your parser-single target buffs, so astro cards, left eye and/or being a dance partner.

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about what the numbers in the op are ? no idea.

it looks like the maximum is taken from the "max all bosses" metric, taking a quick glance its the closest match (the data it gives me are allways off by like +-10 dps, as i'm unsure how exactly these listings for are calculated for multiple fights on fflogs even with "max" enabled i would assume these difference comes from the op checking earlier than me). now the "min" value is a different beast, using the same "all fight" metrics even at 25% the highest class would be summoner at just slightly below 15k, so i have absolutely no idea where these numbers come from, in fact the numbers the op give are all pretty smack dab in the middle between 70->75 percentile levels.

also, using "max" values is stupid anyways, even if you are of the "only perfect play should count" club, a class doing their max potential isn't "perfect play", its the group bending over backwards so you don't have to do anything. take blackmages "max" number, for these to happen the group basically has to root the blackmage in place, one could say the blackmage isn't so much doing the fight as the group is doing the fight for the blackmage which raises the blackmage max number, while doing nothing for its lower numbers, thereby artificially raising the disparity. basically "having a max blackmage is useless for the group."

edit: also, while comparisons by numbers are nice , at least if numbers are used in a usefull way, i.e. telling people what these numbers are, the context behind them, aswell as generally bringing an understanding why certain numbers may be different than what one thinks comparisons by absolute numbers have another failling in that they don't show the relative value of what this means to a class.

for a better understanding of what i mean by that, take a theoretical class , just act like this class would exists for a moment, this class could do anywhere between 1000-2000 dps
now if you would look at this 1000-2000 dps class using absolute numbers the difference between the best and the worst players would only be 1000 dps, but would this mean this class is more consistent than others ? of course it wouldn't, in fact this class would have the worst spread of them all, and while that example obviously was overblown even with the current dps differences the effect i just described is very real, even if not to such an extreme extent.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Can someone explain to me what exactly aDPS is?

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Adding to what Akiudo wrote, this is what Kihra officially lists on his website