The Devs have no idea what they are doing with FFXIV’s crafting and economics..

was debating posting this or not because several days ago me and my friends saw the patch notes and read “crafting adjustments”, some actions would be removed, some adjusted. Once we saw in discord that they removed Reused and ingenuity, we thought “oh, that means delicate synthesis kinda got nerfed, win!”

Then we saw “Crafting Recipes at Higher levels will be easier” and realized nothing has really changed, same easy difficulty as before. It’s come to many people’s attention that Square’s FFXIV team ( Yoshida and other devs ) have absolutely no flipping idea what they are doing when it comes to the game’s economy and crafting system. How many times do you need to make crafting easier for players? How many times are you going to nerf recipes that do not need to be nerfed? MAX MELDED PLAYERS SHOULD STILL HAVE A HARD TIME CRAFTING NEW RECIPES! it shouldnt be a cake walk even for them. the hell?

As much as I hated the move Reuse....you remove it? you do realize it was a brand new move that YOU put in the game? ....what the heck? and now you add Tax to everyone in the game, along with removing Gil as a reward from collectibles. lol why are you so concerned with Gil being handed out when you’ve been doing that for years? why is it all of a sudden a concern now, Yoshida team?

making regular crafting so mindless and easy...taxes....easy master books...you do realize that doesn’t motivate people to NOT buy gil.,,it makes them MORE LIKELY to buy gil from rmt. because you are essentially making everything in FFXIV so meaningless, with such little value, to the point where having a lot of Gil is hard as hell. because everyone and their momma is spamming the market with useless gear. you’re making it hard for newer players to earn a lot of Gil. only ones who have a lot of Gil are the vet players from 2.0 - 4.0 when things were still valuable.

by the way...you once said you wanted to encourage people to not use macros? guess what, buttercup?! PEOPLE STILL USE AND SPAM MACROS! wtf? get rid of them or nerf macros somehow, but you won’t do that will you? you just want everything to be WoW style casual and mindless. gotcha. while you’re at it, implement a crafting action that instantly gives me max Quality and progress, daddy UwU ( that....that was a joke Yoshida, don’t actually do that lol. )

there have been threads on the forums addressing the issue like this one: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...dcore-crafters..

, yet you guys still refuse to address it properly and fix it properly. adding “Expert recipes” with rewards no hardcore player gives a F about isn’t the solution. really sad what you guys have turned such a wonderful MMO into. shame on you devs, honestly, shame.

inb4 posts:

“crafting was never hard”
“u just wanna hoard Gil all to ur self, u elitist”
“u got expert recipes u elitist”
“rNg makes me sad so no”
“macros stay because i say so”
“i like easy crafting”
“i hope crafting always stays easy u filthy elitist”

LazyCrafterExcuses.exe has stopped working...

Anyone who is concerned about the state of crafting and XIV's economies should not be shedding tears over Reuse being removed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Elamys

Anyone who is concerned about the state of crafting and XIV's economies should not be shedding tears over Reuse being removed.

---

lol? im happy it’s gone, the reason I mentioned it is because it’s to prove the point that they have no idea what they want for the future of crafting. the changes are very inconsistent

They removed a lot of abilities they put in at level 80. Sometimes they have ideas for things that seem great in theory but don't work out in the end. They redid crafting from top to bottom and it's only been in the game for 3 months. They removed 2 abilities, added 2 more, and adjusted difficulty for starred recipes in preparation for the Expert recipes, which will be our new endgame. It is no different than making the normal raids easier because savage exists. That doesn't sound to me like they don't know what they want, or don't have a defined direction for what they're doing. It sounds like they are iterating upon a new concept.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Elamys

They removed a lot of abilities they put in at level 80. Sometimes they have ideas for things that seem great in theory but don't work out in the end. They redid crafting from top to bottom and it's only been in the game for 3 months. They removed 2 abilities, added 2 more, and adjusted difficulty for starred recipes in preparation for the Expert recipes, which will be our new endgame. It is no different than making the normal raids easier because savage exists. That doesn't sound to me like they don't know what they want, or don't have a defined direction for what they're doing. It sounds like they are iterating upon a new concept.

---

yah in other words they have no idea what they are doing lol 2.0 - 3.0 they had a formula in place. 4.0 they give us prudent touch to make things easy. now in 5.0 they just turn everything into a “super easy” type of difficulty. also, “Expert Recipes” are just a mini game...it’s not endgame at all. endgame implies you get some form of accomplishment out of it, like savage tier gear. we aren’t getting gear at all. just some “skysteel tools” that are basically relics that anyone can do.

“Expert Recipes” are just an over glorified mini game with useless and meaningless leaderboards...along with lame rewards. that’s like saying gold saucer is endgame, it’s just a collection of meaningless mini games

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LostCroisanf

“Expert Recipes” are just an over glorified mini game with useless and meaningless leaderboards...along with lame rewards. that’s like saying gold saucer is endgame, it’s just a collection of meaningless mini games

---

I've got bad news for you, friend.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kabooa

I've got bad news for you, friend.

---

lol i actually like some of those cute little games though to be honest. like out on a limb or gates. but it’s gold saucer, so it should be expected to meet that fate, yeah? so why does crafting have to meet that fate? crafting used to be a serious and competitive thing, now it’s just an easy cake walk, and a matter of “whoever spams gear on the market the most and makes it un-valuable the most, wins!” like come on bruh

I can't think of a more broken ability than reuse. We all loved it, but no one can deny that it was HORRIBLE game design.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LostCroisanf

yah in other words they have no idea what they are doing lol 2.0 - 3.0 they had a formula in place. 4.0 they give us prudent touch to make things easy. now in 5.0 they just turn everything into a “super easy” type of difficulty. also, “Expert Recipes” are just a mini game...it’s not endgame at all. endgame implies you get some form of accomplishment out of it, like savage tier gear. we aren’t getting gear at all. just some “skysteel tools” that are basically relics that anyone can do.

“Expert Recipes” are just an over glorified mini game with useless and meaningless leaderboards...along with lame rewards. that’s like saying gold saucer is endgame, it’s just a collection of meaningless mini games

---

I onced asked what REWARDS hardcore crafters want. All I get is answers that contridict what they have said before and excuses cause the community really does not know. I am almost at the point of linking peoples silly posts where they go back on crap they have said just to watch them fumble for an explanation or dodge the topic entirely. Good example saying you dont care about gil in one thread then complaining about the value and the effect eaiser crafting as on value in another thread. If you dont care about gil then why the hell would you care about the value of the item!!!