Harder 4 person content

I keep seeing that people want harder 4 person content and I agree with that. Just wondering what some ideas are for that.

My ideas are the following.

Maybe even patches like 5.2/5.4 add a new dungeon in one and trial in the other.

The dungeon is a little longer than normal, gives more tomes, gil, and maybe a chance at a unique minion and mount at the end. Not the same mobs, boss, mobs, boss, mobs, and boss formula.

Dungeon spreads the party apart at the start and they have their own things to accomplish on the way to the first boss. Dps need to kill multiple enemies, healers need to keep some npc alive, tanks need to use CDs to stay alive.

On the way to the last boss everyone is together but there is 3 paths to the final boss. One path is harder on the tank, have to really use your CDs and enmity skills, another is for healers enemies will use multiple AOEs, the last is for DPS, hard DPS checks.

Also after you clear the path you can return and do another path or just go the final boss.

As for the "5.4" trial.

It gives tomes, gil, and a decent weapon or an item that you need 2-3 of for a weapon.

Single strong boss that has 4 phases. First is a hard dps check, dps need to use everything in their arsenal. Like I'm a dragoon main. I need to take full advantage of Dragon Sight, Lance charge, Battle Litany, maybe even a potion.

Second phase is for healers, multiple status affects will be dealt, some attacks will cause a DoT on an ally and the only way to counter it is a regen, boss will be much weaker to healers attacks.

Third phase is focused on the tanks, multiple mobs that hit hard the tank needs to pick up, OHKO attacks the tank needs to use their invulnerable skill with, only notice is the boss's animation, no floor sign or attack name.

Final phase is a combinations of all. A true team work experience .

Neither of these are required for the story, just a side story. The tomes are equal to expert roulette, gil is a few hundred thousand, plus the minion/mount, and weapon.

I still think the game needs to focus on the 24 man raids and the 12 part 8 man raids. But I really like the idea of a hard dungeon and trial for 4 people parties.

Don't we have something like this already in the game? I mean isn't deep dungeon and that monster hunter fight fill that void somewhat? I mean if that's the case can we have more of those?

If we do get any harder 4 man content like OP suggests, then it should not be part of a roulette or be able to be queued solo to put you in to a pug team.

If it's part of a roulette or can be queued solo, then players who are not geared, skilled or experienced enough to run the dungeon would feel entitled to be able to do it like any other content they can queue for...which would result in a lot of friction. Some people would call for nerfs while others would complain about casuals going into content they should not be in.

The reason why the high-end deep dungeon works is because you cannot queue for it and join a pug. You need to find the three other people yourself. This prevents a lot of drama you would otherwise get if people could just queue for it like any other roulette/msq content.

We are going to need savage four-man content at this rate if they want to move the 2nd ultimate fight to the end of the expansion. Otherwise what else is the savage gear this tier good for?

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Originally Posted by technole

We are going to need savage four-man content at this rate if they want to move the 2nd ultimate fight to the end of the expansion. Otherwise what else is the savage gear this tier good for?

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