Paladin buffs

Has anyone tanked long fights as paladin since 1.21a? Any MP issues? How about hate now with spirits within? The buff to blocks with Devine veil really noticeable?

Thanks for your input!

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Originally Posted by waldo

Has anyone tanked long fights as paladin since 1.21a? Any MP issues? How about hate now with spirits within? The buff to blocks with Devine veil really noticeable?

Thanks for your input!

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we only used it a few times tonight, but it didn't take long and our tank went back to war quickly.

Divine Veil helps with dmg mitigation but the mp issues are still apparent. However bard makes that better. Some may still prefer war but paladin keeps hate a lot better. Now if we could only get SE to replenish mp by as much as aegis gives back hp and paladin would be a survivor and self sufficient. Divine Veil is very nice though. :)

WAR can utilize his HP to sustain high damaging moves (and recover his hp + additional damage using WS), but what PLD can use?? that is what bothers me most.

You can stack Divine Veil and Outmaneuver for some self-MP recovery. Also, Ethers are your friend. Divine Veil also allows for Phalanx spam and the Spirit's Within combo is a great addition to enmity. Good update for PLD overall.

Paladin I think is fine now, the issue is the damage output from WAR.

It can tank as well as PLD but WAR shortens fights and holds hate real nicely through damage enmity. There's no reason to take a Paladin to Chimera (example) when a WAR is a safer choice incase you get by a magic breath attack due to the higher HP and it can almost top the dps parse x_x

Paladin needs enough damage mitigation that you can drop a white mage and bring an extra dedicated DPS to balance them out!

What I've learned about the new PLD:

1: Divine Veil + Outmaneuver = yum MP/TP. Divine Veil forces partial guarding, so you get Outy's perks for free.
2: Divine Veil + TP = Phalanx spam = damage. While not alot, significantly more than meleeing.
3: Divine Veil = no physical pushbacks. Tested on Buata, didn't budge an inch.
4: Enmity from Spirits Within = somewhat insignificant. Not entirely stoked about using it as a dealmaker.
5: AF = still garbage.
6: HP = same. WAR's better for one versus many/brickhouse-slamming mobs.
7: Cover = meh.

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Originally Posted by Junpei

Paladin needs enough damage mitigation that you can drop a white mage and bring an extra dedicated DPS to balance them out!

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Or bring PLD/Gld up from the low end of the DPS pool at the very least.

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Originally Posted by Issachar

What I've learned about the new PLD:

1: Divine Veil + Outmaneuver = yum MP/TP. Divine Veil forces partial guarding, so you get Outy's perks for free.
2: Divine Veil + TP = Phalanx spam = damage. While not alot, significantly more than meleeing.
3: Divine Veil = no physical pushbacks. Tested on Buata, didn't budge an inch.
4: Enmity from Spirits Within = somewhat insignificant. Not entirely stoked about using it as a dealmaker.
5: AF = still garbage.
6: HP = same. WAR's better for one versus many/brickhouse-slamming mobs.
7: Cover = meh.

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SW damage is not bad,isnt it? I think it is a bit below Goring Blade.

Thing is you going to be very busy if you wanna full utilizing PLD...like the the buttons smash gif on other thread,lol

A good PLD is a busy PLD.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...83/2cp5bo5.gif