Individual players shouldn't be allowed to purchase or relocate to Large plots.

It makes me incredibly livid. It\\'s clear that so many different forms of housing exist for different groups- smalls for the everyman, mediums for bigger groups and influential persons, and larges for communities. All that space in a Large- basement, separated upper floors, massive foyer- what does one person need all that space for? Nothing but vanity and proof that they can play the marketboards or grind too much.

A FC can use that space for so much. Aesthetics of a mixed group; workstations to benefit crafters; food for raids and content and more; buffs and other benefits; showcasing the achievements of the collective through special furniture; and more.

As a role player, on a roleplay server, who runs a roleplay community that works to engage the WHOLE of the server in learning and playing within the game\\'s unlimited creative potential, it hurts even more. So much space that can be used, in character and out of character- GONE because one person decided they need a monument to their vanity.

There\\'s only a handful of larges per ward. And you let the few who overwork the system snap it up and not give the community you say you care so much about half a chance, SE. You can do better than this.

FCs dont need larges anymore than individuals do. More space is just more slots for decorating and garden plots. If you want a large for your FC its best to go through the same channels as everyone else, I.E. purchasing a small and transferring over.

seriously, if you're going to run it like this don't bother pretending it's more fc friendly by locking it to fc purchases only while still allowing individual transfers. at least if the damn things were on general timed purchases you'd have a chance at getting lucky with the click lottery instead of getting boned because the client insists on kicking you all the way back to desktop every time it craps out on login or whatever

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

FCs dont need larges anymore than individuals do. More space is just more slots for decorating and garden plots. If you want a large for your FC its best to go through the same channels as everyone else, I.E. purchasing a small and transferring over.

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1) Slots are already limited. For those who can't even get a small, you can't transfer in anyway.
2) Transferring is a broken system that allows singular players to do this EXACT. THING. And screw other communities out of their chance in the first place.
3) A community of tens of people, up to over a hundred, deserves to have the chance to take advantage of benefits far more than one person and up to three of their friends, as they can accomplish far more (even just in theory) than a light party (at most).

So yes. I would say that FCs need the space more than individuals do. And deserve the CHANCE, at least, to get it, without needing to exploit a system that you already need to pray you can get into in the first place.

We seriously just need instanced housing at this point. Maybe the ability to upgrade apartments to bigger sizes and lock the houses to be FC only if we can't ever have enough houses.

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Originally Posted by Taedius

1) Slots are already limited. For those who can't even get a small, you can't transfer in anyway.
2) Transferring is a broken system that allows singular players to do this EXACT. THING. And screw other communities out of their chance in the first place.
3) A community of tens of people, up to over a hundred, deserves to have the chance to take advantage of benefits far more than one person and up to three of their friends, as they can accomplish far more (even just in theory) than a light party (at most).

So yes. I would say that FCs need the space more than individuals do. And deserve the CHANCE, at least, to get it, without needing to exploit a system that you already need to pray you can get into in the first place.

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1) yes. all plots are limited until square decides to make instanced housing. whats your point?

2) its a broken system because what? you couldnt take appropriate steps to use it like the individuals you're complaining about did? and refuse to use it now so you can be prepared for next time, even though tons of smalls opened up everywhere? Especially since as an FC, had you taken this route and had sufficient funds, you could have had multiple people out at the same time, increasing your chances more than the individual.

3) the benefits of...what exactly? garden plots? Highly doubtful the whole FC uses garden plots simply because cross breeding takes up a lot of time and slots. Itll be one or two people gardening regularly. FC buffs? you get the same buffs in a small as you do a large. decorating? most FCs, especially larger ones, dont let every member decorate at will. crafting stations? Virtually worthless after level 50.


You're salty because you had bad luck. Its unfortunate for you, but implying other players are vain and greedy bevause of it is uncalled for.

I'm going to have say the same about Instanced housing on this, reasons why, me and my friends worked hard for a large and we enter to get one noticing all have been taken. I'm tired of competing whit players to get online 1st to get a large house. They are happy, when we are not. I prefer Instance housing like SWTOR ( Star wars the old republic) You can get a small or medium or even mansion size home whit having a back yard to grow a little farm. Even FFXI you had a mog house whit a room and still can invite friends or LS members. I purchased a small house and I'm not satisfied whit it. Please create a personal instance for homes for everyone and even one for FC's. And the best examples of homes i recommend take a look at SWTOR and is a prime example of having good instance housing. I don't want to see my neighbor basting glory whit his large house it's depressing. I want to be happy whit my family and friends in a Large house we can enjoy in. Please SE get rid of this housing and make a personal housing so my family and friends can enjoy in our own Large mansion. I'm tired of competing whit other for this. Makes me upset that not everyone has the time as others do.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

The individual players have to put in the same amount of effort as the Fcs. One person doing the same amount of work as 5-10-500 members FC. We could say the individual deserves the plot more for all the hard work and sleepless nights, because he/she is severely disadvantaged. It's not just making the gil. It's also buying the plot. One player is one player clicking one plot. FC can have 500 players trying to buy 500 plots at once. Even with this said, housing is fair game.

Btw. the crafting statitions work till 70 and can be placed in FC rooms.

Why should personal players not be allowed to own large houses? Unlike FCs they also have to work for the huge amount of Gil all alone and if they have the amount why shouldnt they have one? (And we get even less for the house since the workshop is FC only) Getting a small or medium house still gives FC all the benefits and honestly why would they need a big one?

My old FC had a small one for a long time and we were around 20 people. Yet it never felt that small because we simply did not have everyone around all the time anyways. People can still buy their private rooms, you can still have your workshop and gardening plots. And if you really do FC events then you can still do them outside, you dont need to have it inside. So no I see no reason why large should only go to FCs and SE at least gives you the chance to get some housing with the restrictions for personal players.

Also if you restrict it to FC only, then please restrict it further. Only a FC with a really huge amount of people should ever get a large one. Because why should smaller FCs get it? What big difference is there between one player and maybe a FC with five?

And honestly even if it was purely for FC, people would just create fake FCs or you still might have lost it because there is simply not enough housing there for even just the FCs so there was a high chance that the large ones would go to another FC too.

Edit: Maybe that solo player is also into RP and knows a lot of people and thus opens up a "bar" with their mansion which then will used by a huge amount of people too?

Anyway I am quite happy that we can at least relocate and I am honest: Yes I got a large house for my personal use simply because I love housing and I have put a lot of hours into them and also used a lot of hard work to get the amount of GIl that I have today. I have logged into the game just like anyone else, made my plans on how to get there as fast as possible and simply got lucky. I would in a heartbeat give away that plot if we would finally get instanced housing and can have large ones there. But right now SE still is fixed on their idea of housing which includeds having people at least be able to relocate to have a chance while still giving FCs a bonus.

Why should I get personal housing? I worked all by myself to get the gil, I had to go in the same queue, patch the same game, and I've been preparing since the end of Stormblood for this. If anything I'm at a disadvantage lmao. I enjoy decorating houses and having a theme that doesn't look like roommates thrown in together haphazardly so the aesthetics argument of yours just comes down to personal taste.

1. If you have the whole of the server's rp community to run, you could easily negotiate with others to get a large house.
2. If you have that many people to run after (let's be generous and say 50 people) you could pay someone to give you their house if you really wanted to. I don't think 5 million per person is too much to ask for since it's a boon for the whole of your community.
3. You have over 20(?) people who can go around and get the house for you if you can't yourself, which is the root of your gripes I am guessing.
4. Whatever achievements you have, I have as well so I'd like to show them off :)
5. You claim that someone doesn't need all that space for themselves. So unless your people are going to fill the house to its maximum capacity or at least 75% of it at any given time like it's wall street for rp or something, the house serves the same purpose as it does to you as it does to me, an individual.
6. I have friends who come over too so I don't know why the fact that it's an individual house doesn't mean more than one person gets value out of it???

People like to argue that FC's/large groups of people should have priority because they have more people. So where are your people when housing drops? There's so many of you while there's one of me. Mathematically, the probability of a FC getting a house is much higher than an individual.