SCH nerfed in 5.1

If I'm understanding this right, you can only use Consolation once per Seraph Summon.

Consolation Recast time has been increased from 20 to 30 seconds.

Wonder what the thought proccess was behind this?

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

If I'm understanding this right, you can only use Consolation once per Seraph Summon.

Consolation Recast time has been increased from 20 to 30 seconds.

Wonder what the thought proccess was behind this?

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As far as I know, we still have the 2 charges of consolation. The 30 seconds is an unessecary fix to try to make sure people dont get a 3rd charge.

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Originally Posted by Brandedblade

As far as I know, we still have the 2 charges of consolation. The 30 seconds is an unessecary fix to try to make sure people dont get a 3rd charge.

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Which clearly shows they don't understand the ghosting issue. I'm more concerned with wether or not we'll be able to queue consolation in the first two seconds.

This change really makes no sense unless maybe we can control the fairy's first seraphic veil by having a target when we call her out. But I think that's beyond SE's comprehension of the sch class at this point.

Even if we can queue consolation during the 2 sec action penalty it still means we have to adjust for the extra 2 seconds it would take consolation to apply. This is less user friendly no matter how you look at it. Why would you make a barrier healer wait to apply a barrier? I get that the playstyle is supposed to be preemptive but no other class has to wait just to look at an ability happen. Why is Seraph Summon animation so important that I have to wait to use her skills. Demi Bahamut gets an instant Wyrm Wave on Summon in the same patch that we get a pause button for our Cap Stone ability. This smells retarded.

They stated they'd make it more user friendly, but arbitrarily adding a delay strikes me as less user friendly, it's not like its a cast either. This kinda thing feels like a sticking plaster for a bug.

And nothing about the SCH update suggests anything about making faeries more user friendly.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

They stated they'd make it more user friendly, but arbitrarily adding a delay strikes me as less user friendly, it's not like its a cast either. This kinda thing feels like a sticking plaster for a bug.

And nothing about the SCH update suggests anything about making faeries more user friendly.

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I feel like the change that was intended for that purpose was the one where setting your pet to steady would disable it casting Embrace/Seraphic Veil. Since alot of the time ghosting is caused by the pet being commanded mid-embrace. While it does seem nice to have some level of control over embrace again. I can completely understand if people dont feel its enough.

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Originally Posted by Brandedblade

I feel like the change that was intended for that purpose was the one where setting your pet to steady would disable it casting Embrace/Seraphic Veil. Since alot of the time ghosting is caused by the pet being commanded mid-embrace. While it does seem nice to have some level of control over embrace again. I can completely understand if people dont feel its enough.

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Aye, that's what I mean by sticking plaster, I expect that's what it was intended for. I hope it means they mean to find a better solution in the future. I'll see how it compares to Seraph ghosting when it comes out, because in fairness both are a problem, it's a question of what's less of a problem. If it is meant as a sticking plaster then they make a fix in the future rather than this being the fix.

This isn't a nerf. This is a slight 2s duration buff wrapped in a very oddly worded change that merely adds 2 seconds to Seraph to allow for dealing with the odd "can't immediately cast anything while summoned" thing we've had with her. The Consolation being from 20s to 30s is just as odd, considering I never saw anybody able to get 3 uses of it.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

This isn't a nerf. This is a slight 2s duration buff wrapped in a very oddly worded change that merely adds 2 seconds to Seraph to allow for dealing with the odd "can't immediately cast anything while summoned" thing we've had with her. The Consolation being from 20s to 30s is just as odd, considering I never saw anybody able to get 3 uses of it.

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So instead of fixing it so Seraph is able to cast immediately after being summoned they instead added a 2 second delay to being able to use her skills? Forgive me but I fail to see how that is a buff. If anything, at best I would consider that breaking even. It's like if someone put 10 dollars into my bank account vs. putting 12 dollars in my account with a 2 dollar service fee. At the end of the day I'm left with the same amount of money.

Honestly I would consider it a nerf since that's 2 seconds I would be spamming to try to get the ability to activate. When I was actively playing scholar I would either; wait to see what the enemy was casting so I could mitigate it or look for particular markers to mitigate. With this 2 second delay it would be uncomfortable to try to line these up with raid AoE damage.

I wish Disspation got this not the Seraph which i didnt really have problems with. Dissipation 'killing' the fairy b4 she casts Whispering Dawn etc (tho still putting them on cd) is soooo annoying.
Otherwise, this patch didnt really move us anywhere, and all our collective issues are still mounting lol. Woo