Dark Knight needs an expansion's worth of reworks to make it fun/interesting

I am taking the time actually attempting to play/learn current Dark Knight.


Needless to say, I am not having fun due to how many glaring issues it has when taking it into older content with level sync on, which also affects newer content going forward and there are too many options to make Dark Knight fun again but because of how limited the resources are for Final Fantasy 14 are thanks to factors outside of Yoshi-P and the dev team's control, there is not enough time or manpower to actually do so.


Now I have lot more things that I do want for Dark Knight but the list keeps growing with each new glaring issue I find with Dark Knight(since everyone that browses the tank forums know that happen to see me knows that I am one of those people who changes their mind about how many changes that I want for Dark Knight).


Dark Knight needs a better identity that isn't "Warrior that can use magic attacks but has terrible MP generation and cannot direct critical hit"

I know it's gonna take that for me to be interested in playing the class again.

That said, I still don't think it's a bad class, I just have no drive to play the thing. I'm actually losing my will to tank in general this expansion so that might also be a reason.

It literally just needs Delirium with a different effect and Darkside to not be auto-upkeep.

Enough with the rework threads please.

DRK is fine how it is as the person above said change Delerium and itll be better.

Change delirium and meaby tweak Blood weapon to reduce the downtimes a lot with Edge/flood darkside timers adjusted its mostly what the job needs, and living dead rework too of course.

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Originally Posted by kazzel120

Enough with the rework threads please.

DRK is fine how it is as the person above said change Delerium and itll be better.

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Still slow. Still feels like I'm pushing less buttons. Still has MP issues. Still feels like too much value is put on TBN which put us in a weird spot if that ever gets touched.

I have other complaints. But I do agree the fact we're up to..., what 5 topics? I think we've discussed this to death and there's really nothing more to say about it. Espically, as I understand it, the devs don't take into account English forums when thinking about changes. So if we expect changes for DRK(or any class really) we'd the same result if we just posted "Radda Radda" across several topics.

If you include the living dead, salted earth, and supposed lack of utility threads then there are actually 8 on the front page as of typing this. Also we have no clue what the devs take into account when thinking about changes as it is my understanding that there are equally many threads on the same topics for the Japanese side of the forum.

When we talk about DRK threads all of them tend to being ignored no matters how much the job need helps, its been like that since DRK release the forever ignored one.

DRK needs a bit of polish, but the guts work just fine. Salted Earth targeting could be improved. Living Dead drawback could be improved. Blood Weapon duration could be improved (to work just like Delirium). Beyond that, I don't feel like anything is broken.

Maybe add a weaker version of TBN to level 30, so the leveling experience prepares you for the true core of the class (successfully using TBN).

Maybe the recasts on Abyssal Drain, Salted Earth, and Carve and Spit could be made lower (with corresponding adjustments to potency), but the "busy" level of DRK seems about right for a tank at the moment.

EDIT: The only real change I'd like to see that's not just polishing up is to change Darkside from a % damage buff to a % haste buff. I think it'd allow DRK to flow better, especially in AoE situations.

I can agree with the weaker TBN at lower levels. It would definitely help with how the lower levels feel. Personally I wish they would cut the CDs of at least Living Shadow and Salted Earth in half as they are among the longest tank CDs that any of the tanks have. I just want to SEE fray more often and Salted Earth is like less than 1/3 of the damage of Bow shock and Circle of Scorn (puting all in terms of dmg/90s).

I also wonder why they don't take a lesson from their PVP build of Drk on some things. Both Bloodspiller and Quietus give MP, and Quietus' damage is such that it makes sense to use it if I have 2 or more targets. Whereas it is a loss in PVE. Also Bloodspiller and Syphon Strike give 1000 mp while Quietus gives 500 per target hit. This is all not even speaking about having a better Soul Survivor much less having it period.

Also OMG if Darkside was a speed buff instead of a damage buff I would love it so much more. Simply because it would actually give a tactile feedback for not having it up while giving Drk the snappy feeling that we've lost.