The 5.1 appreciation thread

Just getting this started on the hopes that amaurot gets kicked out of Expert. God that dungeon might be one of if not the worst dungeon in the game.

Too many AoEs, Too many obnoxiously large enemies, too much time wasted dodging dumb aoes with stupid mechanics, dumb camera options on the final boss with annoying tells and hit boxes, an annoying first boss that's designed for longevity = difficulty mindset that wastes your time. I've healed it, and dps'd it. And every time it comes up, It just makes me miserable.

Sorry, venting over. Though if we can have a slightly similar discussion, anyone have any thoughts on what the new Hard mode dungeon will be lol

I'm sorry, I fail to see how you hating Amaurot is supposed to start off a discussion for a patch that isn't due to release for at least a couple more months.

In 4.1 they added one dungeon, and expert roulette absorbed it without dropping one.

I'd like to see Belsar's Wall HM

You could have just made a thread about how you disliked Amaurot.

Which is probably gonna be an unpopular opinion btw. Most people love it. I think it's fun personally.

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

You could have just made a thread about how you disliked Amaurot.

Which is probably gonna be an unpopular opinion btw. Most people love it. I think it's fun personally.

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visually it's awesome. But on a gameplay development level, not so much.

As for the name of the thread. I figured no one wants to hear me whine, so I figured I'd whine and open up a nice discussion in the process lol

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Originally Posted by Eskuire

I figured no one wants to hear me whine, so I figured I'd whine and open up a nice discussion in the process lol

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You failed at your one goal then.

You half ask a question after "venting" that isn't even a discussion starter. It's literally "Name what you want it to be". How does this spark discussion or make this anything more than a complaint thread?

What do I think the next dungeon will be? I have no idea. It'll probably be a "The First" dungeon. Unless they decide "The Source" is important enough this expansion to get dungeons. /shrug

Also, Amaurot is fine imo.

I don’t see us getting a Source dungeon due to the trust system, and the Scions are still stuck on the First. Maybe after we’ve discovered a way to bring them back will we get a dungeon on the Source.

Trusts are gonna be only for leveling dungeons I believe.

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

Trusts are gonna be only for leveling dungeons I believe.

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They'll be available for all MSQ dungeons at least through 5.1 and possibly going forward from there. They mentioned this in the same answer where they talked about condensing the ARR MSQ, cited here, Q12: "...so in patch 5.1 we made it so you can go to the new MSQ dungeons with Trusts." Basically like how you can use trusts in the final MSQ dungeon even though it isn't a leveling dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Adalberht

I don’t see us getting a Source dungeon due to the trust system, and the Scions are still stuck on the First. Maybe after we’ve discovered a way to bring them back will we get a dungeon on the Source.

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For MSQ dungeons, definitely, but side dungeons might still be able to take place on the Source, as Trust characters aren't available for those (see the two other EX dungeons for that). Doesn't guarantee that we'll get any on the Source, of course, but the possibility is still there, particularly for 'hard' dungeons.