DRK's level 80 skill should have been some kind of resurrection move.

It would have been a fantastic way to add to DRK's group utility. Let DRK be the Tank who doesn't have any kind of group healing capabilities, but balance that out by having them be the only tank who can raise a fallen teammate. I mean, the skill would even fit in with the theme of DRK lol. Thoughts?

nope. That'd guarantee every raid group of every level would want to bring a DRK for that alone. That's almost as bad as "we need a NIN for trick" and "we need a dancer for dances."

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

nope. That'd guarantee every raid group of every level would want to bring a DRK for that alone. That's almost as bad as "we need a NIN for trick" and "we need a dancer for dances."

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You think so? I guess I could see some groups being really picky about that. I don't think it'll be that divisive when looking at the whole game's community though. It's rare that I see groups such have harsh restrictions in PF. And when they do, I personally tend to not join those groups anyway. All classes in this game are viable in their own right, so if somebody is being that restrictive and "high-tier", it really puts me off and gives me the impression that they take things way too seriously...like, to the point that they'll bring constant negative energy to the group.

Mmmm no, if we take RDM past experience DRK will be delivery more weaker in some areas just BCS they have a Res, it will depend of how much the skill work, if it have a cast it will be redundant BCS we don't have siftcast, and if is instant will depend of the recast or how much resources consume, in any case DRK performance will be affected and probably nerfed just BCS they have a Res.

And I'm not fan of every role having res.

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Mmmm no, if we take RDM past experience DRK will be delivery more weaker in some areas just BCS they have a Res, it will depend of how much the skill work, if it have a cast it will be redundant BCS we don't have siftcast, and if is instant will depend of the recast or how much resources consume, in any case DRK performance will be affected and probably nerfed just BCS they have a Res.

And I'm not fan of every role having res.

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Okay, to balance things out let's give him no proper selfheal, a bad ultimate cd and lock him into magic damage mitigation, while the other tanks can tank everything fine.

However, not a fan of a raise on DRK either xD

Raise would fit Paladin more. Paladins were actually able to use raise in older FF games since they can use white magic. It could be a nice thematic addition to their kit, but even with a long cast time and a long CD it'd be pretty hard to balance with the other tanks anyway.

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Okay, to balance things out let's give him no proper selfheal, a bad ultimate cd and lock him into magic damage mitigation, while the other tanks can tank everything fine.

However, not a fan of a raise on DRK either xD

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He will have more selfheal than he have now (every souleater heals now)
Living dead is not that bad, Hollowed ground is just OP. My only complaining now is no more combo with convalescence
TBN is a 15sec cooldown 25% HP shield, you need no more. For every tank burster you should have TBN + another cooldown and should be more than enough.

And for the last time, until we dont know the potency equivalent of living shadow, STOP making sugestions to it. Its a oGCD ability with a 1000 potency at a bare minimum.

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Raise would fit Paladin more. Paladins were actually able to use raise in older FF games since they can use white magic. It could be a nice thematic addition to their kit, but even with a long cast time and a long CD it'd be pretty hard to balance with the other tanks anyway.

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Second. Raise (if it were ever added to a single tank) is 100% a paladin thing. Thats just not really in Drks theme or aesthetic in any way.

Paladin actually had Raise previously via cross-class; you just couldn't use it while fighting so you could just as easily switch jobs to WHM to cast it.

Hallowed Ground is not OP because it only lasts 10 seconds and has a long cooldown. Clemency is more OP than Hallowed Ground ever will be, because you can survive indefinitely with it to the point of soloing expert dungeons (but my experiences of this have been when I greatly exceed the average item level).

I would actually prefer it if this game had less raises. I feel that it tends to promote brute force as a means to clear content. I was really hoping that they would introduce some sort of "life" system where your team had a shared pool of instant cast resurrection abilities which can only be used a certain number of times per pull/attempt.