No Irregular Tomestone of Philosophy if you join party in progress

So now we're encouraging people to turn the Join Party in Progress off because if you just happened to get this on one of the very few available dungeons that Irregular Tomestones are available for, you won't get any Irregular Tomestone.

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They do this because if two people queue for something, they can guarantee a vote kick will go through and let a third friend of theirs snipe the instance. If each of them take turns, that's one less dungeon they have to run for every three.

People should be rewarded for enabling Join Party in Progress. Need more people turning it on, not off.

Log vote kicks and tell the person who was kicked what was selected as the reason and give them an option to report it as false. Start punishing people for abusing the kick system.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

People should be rewarded for enabling Join Party in Progress. Need more people turning it on, not off.

Log vote kicks and tell the person who was kicked what was selected as the reason and give them an option to report it as false. Start punishing people for abusing the kick system.

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"Difference in playstyle" is a valid reason for kick. If they don't say anything in the game about it, it's assumed they're kicked for that reason. GMs won't do anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

"Difference in playstyle" is a valid reason for kick. If they don't say anything in the game about it, it's assumed they're kicked for that reason. GMs won't do anything about it.

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If that's a valid reason then it needs to be added to the selection for reasons to kick. If you're doing everything your class should be doing then that isn't a valid reason to kick someone.

Honestly ever since I found out we can get these tomes doing stone vigil with your squadren I've actually started trying to collect them.

It says right on the website for the event that joining in progress won't reward you the event tomestones.

Also, with revised TOS don't think "difference in playstyle" is a valid reason for vote kick anymore.

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◆Obstruction of play
"Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play:

・Spamming
This means using chat (including Quick Chat and Emote) to obstruct another person's conversation, or obstruct the use of mog letters, etc., for example, by sending an excessive number of unnecessary items in mog letters, etc. Even if obstruction was not the objective of the behaviour, it may be deemed a violation if another player is actually obstructed by the behaviour.

・Obstructing transit/progress
This means obstructive behaviour such as group blocking of passages or facilities along which many players pass or obstructing another person's game play progress, for example by overlapping an important NPC deliberately for a long time.

・Improper expulsion voting
This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting.

・Intentional leaving or disconnection
This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

・Other obstruction of play
This means all other behaviour that deliberately obstructs another person's game play by some means.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

They do this because if two people queue for something, they can guarantee a vote kick will go through and let a third friend of theirs snipe the instance. If each of them take turns, that's one less dungeon they have to run for every three.

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Actually they'd still have to be waiting, so they aren't actually saving any time.

And the system could pick up this behavior anyways and deal punishment. Yes, playstyle difference is a reason, but kicking every single dungeon run of the same dungeon and having that friend mysteriously join every time is going to set red flags off on the system REAL quick.

I was queued for Syrcus Tower and World of Darkness last night with my partner and literally every time it was ready someone would cancel, which happened roughly 3-4 times before we finally got it. Lots of people want the end rewards of content without doing it, so that's specifically to avoid lazy, greedy people who just want the tomes and don't want to spend 20 minutes getting them.

Why even do this stuff? Don't torture yourself with this dumb event. Just get a party together and go to diadem. You want that pegasus mount, right? Seriously you can earn it in 2-3 hours easy.