Start all new jobs at lvl 30 or introduce new pre-requisite classes for them at lvl 1

I like starting fresh for every new thing cuz it gives me the chance to learn it fully and properly. Yes, PoTD is a thing and yes, I will use it, but I was bummed that the expac classes start at lvl 50+. Idk, I wish they at least had a new pre-req class to level from 1. Like, ashigaru for Samurai or Engineer for Machinist.

*shrugs*

Also, I'm not feeling Dancer for Shadowbringers tbh.

You don't learn a job 'fully' until you get the full toolkit to work with, i.e. when it's at level cap. Up to that point you get a mess like MCH and DRK.

You have the option to sync down as you please.

Don't force it on me.

you can learn by reading your skills... don't act like your lvl has a bearing on anything.

Leveling doesn't teach anyone anything.

One of the things I like most about ESO is that you make a new toon, walk out the door, and can queue for a dungeon right away.

What you quickly realize is that it's not leveling that teaches you anything - it's playing it in relevant content.

People here would likely know MORE about how to play their role/class/job if they started at Max level with all their skills and got thrown out into the world, having to perform quickly. You'd basically see about 1 day of noobishness and then folks would get it.

Instead the real problem is they spend 1-6 months leveling without their proper tools... and they learn all the WRONG ways to play, and then at max, have to FIRST UNLEARN everything, before they can learn how to do it right.

Humans learn differently. How you learn is unique to you. However, all base jobs have been preceded by a class and that's how I learn, so that's my rpeferred method. It's cool that you guys want things to remain the same though :3 This is just a suggestion

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Originally Posted by Makeda

Instead the real problem is they spend 1-6 months leveling without their proper tools... and they learn all the WRONG ways to play, and then at max, have to FIRST UNLEARN everything, before they can learn how to do it right.

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On the other hand, there's plenty of relevant content at all the level caps, 50, 60 and 70.
Some jobs have very different rotations at 50, and not learning how to use the level 50 skills can be just as bad, and can hinder your ability to play content that shouldn't be difficult at this point.
This could be particularly bad for healers. Jumping straight to cap gives you a load of oGCDs to use, but if you sync back to 50 and haven't learned to time your GCD heals correctly, you could screw things up for everyone.

I played right through from ARR to SB my first time as BLM, and sure it was an adjustment at level 60, but it was no different transitioning from 50 to 60 then it would be just learning it at 60.
The point is you should know how to play your job at all levels, not just at cap.

Now, I wouldn’t suggest everyone level from 1, or even 30, but there could be other options.

Perhaps all jobs start at level 1, but expansion jobs come with a free jump potion to their relevant level.
It would be nice to give all jobs a starting class too, and this could facilitate that. The unlock quests just gives you the class, then the next quest gives you the job stone and the jump potion.
Obviously it’s a bit late for that now but, there are other ways it could have worked.

there is a reason why a training dummy exist.

and no, just because people learn stuff from level 1 doesn't mean they know their stuff when they reach 70, different people has different take.

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Originally Posted by Creed255

Humans learn differently. How you learn is unique to you. However, all base jobs have been preceded by a class and that's how I learn, so that's my rpeferred method. It's cool that you guys want things to remain the same though :3 This is just a suggestion

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That's why the game kinda addresses it currently. Each new job starts at a given level, but if you prefer to get a feeling of the lower levels, you can have a go during syched down content like early dungeons and Palace of the Dead / Heaven on High. And if you don't feel like doing higher level content, you just dont queue for it until you think you're comfortable with how the job plays.

I'm with the majority that thinks a job plays "only" at level cap, and the sooner you get there, the better. But the game won't force it onto you. :)

Meh, they don't have to be 30 but I would be in favour of certain prerequisites being met.

Dark Knight requires a Gladiator or Marauder at level 30.
Gunbreaker requires a Paladin, Warrior or Dark Knight at level 60.

That sort of thing, you'd need at least a general understanding of the role you're going to play before you can dive straight in at level 50+.