Combat system add one / corrections

I’m gonna be straight to the point and I’m going to outline some things I feel need to be addressed with the battle system of final fantasy 14.
Let me start with this every monster including bosses should have a stagger meter.
This is a meter by which when full an enemy suffers from being staggered and is made vulnerable for optimum damage of 150-200% and cannot attacked like being knocked down...
-tanks-
I feel every tank class should have abilities that knock down,push back, and corral
The epitome of a tank is drawing focus but combat wise they should have abilities that ensure they can guard a party and keep enemies centered on them and also weaken some monsters.

-dps-
From using the red mage class I realized every dps class should have an escape skill
But also not one that is used like a skill but rather... if you target an enemy and use the target lock on, when using the jump button and a direction you should activate a type of dodge. Depending on what class your playing is the type of action the character does. For ex: a dragoon might quick dodge with his jump ability, or a samurai with a flash step, a monk with a leaping side step but it works to get out of a danger zone and to keep it from being consistently used it would have a 10-second cool down...

-mages-
Now for mages the magic class I feel this relates to my earlier statement with tanks but
I feel mages as well should have attacks that push back, knockdown, trap, and hold enemies, dome barriers with their own hp and trap abilities to ensnare enemies that are too close and melee proficient. An explosion from a fire blast may knock back enemies or comet may knock down enemies, but some spells should hold enemies in place and have combo effects...
Casting freeze multiple times on enemies freezes them then after unfreezing causes slow... but a frozen enemy might take double damage from a tanks shield bash or a monk’s heavy attack skill.

At the same time I feel that certain classes need advantages over certain classes in situations. If your fighting ice monsters or monsters from coerthas then a black mage has the advantage because fire magic... with deserts ice magic etc... but also with other classes a warrior can tank and Dps... a paladin can tank and heal party members... and a dark knight can tank and black mage... that’s how there supposed to be... a white mage might can erect a protection dome that has its own hp based off the mages intelligence...

I feel they should bring back real final fantasy gameplay and not fancy every other mmo gameplay... it would actually make forming parties interesting...

This isn't an action-MMO. There are plenty of games like that out there, but this isn't one of them.

As to elemental affinities, that's been discussed ad nauseum since before 2.0 launched. Basically it's too hard to balance properly and keep every job viable in all content.

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Originally Posted by Fortee86Gransz

I feel they should bring back real final fantasy gameplay and not fancy every other mmo gameplay... it would actually make forming parties interesting...

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It's very difficult to balance a game intended to be an MMO on previous ones that are almost purely for solo play. If this was turned based combat then sure the ideas seem cool (taken from Monster Hunter it seems but cool) but some things will not work, not to mention several already exist in the game (most melee have movement actions, casters have binding spells, two healers have protection domes etc).

My only guess is you haven't leveled many jobs yet so you haven't experienced all the toolkits available. I'd say look in to doing that and you'll see there is so much already to experiment with.

ff14's battle system may not be perfect but the changes you propose are not how ff14 has ever played or likely will.

those additions could make for a more engaging and entertaining system to a degree but it also rapidly makes apparent player skill level which isnt something the ff14 devs like to do. they want people to have fun playing the game they built in a way they think is fun.

if you want a more engaging battle try the pvp feast mode, cc is much more required there to play well and battle can play out quite differently than the pve counterparts.

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Originally Posted by chidarake

those additions could make for a more engaging and entertaining system to a degree but it also rapidly makes apparent player skill level which isnt something the ff14 devs like to do. they want people to have fun playing the game they built in a way they think is fun.

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It isn't really even about player skill. The issue is that what's described here is a completely different game.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

It isn't really even about player skill. The issue is that what's described here is a completely different game.

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yeah the battle system proposed is very different from what we have ever had or currently have. like you said it sounds more llike an action mmo of which there is quite a few.