I hope we get more Anima in 5.0

After doing Eureka's weapon grind I honestly have to say I miss the Anima grind. Not because of the grind was harder but because it had more meaning. The Eureka weapon is just that, a weapon. Take away the glimmer and sparks and its just another token for the pile.

But anima is a living sentient being. I'd like to see a new quest-line where you go to greater lengths to make your little aether child stronger.

Same. If they decide to lock the new relic behind a stupid place like Eureka, I'll be skipping it this expansion. I want it to have different steps and ways to make it, like ARR and HW ones.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

Same. If they decide to lock the new relic behind a stupid place like Eureka, I'll be skipping it this expansion. I want it to have different steps and ways to make it, like ARR and HW ones.

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^ This. Soooo much this.

Same here, i did the first step and then taking one step in pagos i said nope not doing this and never looked back
I am still sad i am not gettting even one relic done having finished 4 in heavensward and doing some steps of a few others

I had some fun in Anemos but then gave up on the SB relics in Pagos, there's literally nothing they can do to fix that for me outside of just outright deleting that map. Everything in there, right down to the map design is made just to make the players hate them. I hear Pyros is better but I'm not subjecting myself to Pagos just for that. Having to just ignore the relic really pains me since I've done a lot of zetas and the anima weapons, they were something for me to work on alone when there was nothing to do and the lack of that option has severely affected my motivation to play the game. So yeah, pretty safe to say if they're just going to give us another Eureka in 5.0 I might even consider quitting the game.

I prefer Eureka just because the old relic grind system was just redo old content for a relic, which is fine but this is the first real relic weapon I've felt like was actually an accomplishment and the only one I've actually stayed up to date on. I dropped ARR's relic completely during the book phase, I ended up picking it back up in 4.2 and finishing it. I didn't actually feel like tackling the Anima weapon until right before SB because I had nothing left to do. The tomestone weapons worked fine and if you raided then the raid weapons usually took BiS until the end of the expansion. This expansion's relic I'm finding more entertaining because of the randomized substats and an entire piece of side content behind it, plus Eureka's not bad for making money through battle content.

It's difficult to avoid being boring while making a relic, precisely due to the nature of relic itself. It's content for grinding, but how can you be creative for grinding?

Throw your stones at me if you want, but Eureka is the most creative way yet. It's clunky and has its flaws, but it has its storyline, it has gorgeous and original maps, mechanics tweaks, and the recent addition of the logos system is really nice. It's just too bad it locks the relics out of people who don't enjoy this precise content, but the devs tried something new.

I understand that grinding for a relic must be as open as possible, which Zodiac and Anima did with being able to grind dungeons, raids, trials, scripts and all that to build the weapon. But they can't stick to that formula for each expansion.

One of the good things about the old relic/anima is I could just take my time with it and do as little or as much as I want, unlike Eureka which forces the player to be reliant on NMs to pop or parties to help with farming. Also the duties will always have life to them (especially through the roulettes), we don't know how quickly Eureka will die out in the next expac or the one after that. Also I could do other things whilst waiting for duties such as crafting, gathering, maps, fixing glamour plates or window shopping on the MB. I suppose having stuff to do in between waits is the really the breaker for me when it comes to Eureka.

I think what we need to ask is a better system than both eureka and anima.

Eureka wouldn't be that bad without all the elemental leveling component that s adding grind in top of grind, but Eureka is simply not interesting enough in itself, content wise.

Se also really need to go away from that mentality where you need to grind forever to get weapons that aren't any better than other ones that can be obtained way more easily.

Honestly all the relic quests have been garbage since after +1 relic in 2.0
Every relic quest after has been needless grinding/or repeating past completed content.

The reason why the original relic quest was so good was that they created 2 unique fights soley for the relic quest and it was quite difficult to carry players through it or any of that unsyncing nonsense.
Not to mention players had to also beat Titan hard mode to get the weapon to +1 which was also another trial which was extremly challening at the time and nearly impossible bar to carry people.
All of this made getting the relic completed feel like a real achievment to the players.