Wanderer's Palace (Hard) narrowly impossible in Command Mission as nonhealing job

As the title suggests, with the introduction of Wanderer's Palace (Hard) for command missions, I've been really struggling with the final boss as the AI almost never tops off heals when you've been afflicted with the Doom status. I've died countless times because of this and it has made the dungeon impossible to complete; my only option is to run this as a healer, but I primarily came to level up some of my jobs that are around 50 when I can't find a group in roulette.

The Squadron AI is really dumb and badly designed. I've died many times in other dungeons because the healer decides to heal only when im below 40%

I've tried it several times as a BLM. The first boss is pretty much impossible for me. The frequency at which the spears show up is so fast that I can't keep up. After I get him to about 90%, he starts throwing them down. By the time I kill the 3rd spear, hes tossing them down with no break every 6-7 seconds. I try killing them and sending my party after them, but they come so fast that I can only kill maybe 4 or 5 more before there's too many and the debuff winds up killing me. I can only get him to like 70% health.

This is definitely one of the more vexing command missions. If you don't bring the right classes and/or don't have their tactics raised high enough, the first boss can be a real problem. Because of the last boss and its doom mechanic, I won't even entertain the thought of going in here as anything other than a healer. It may be possible to complete it with certain off-class healing skills or mitigation, but if it is I don't have the patience to find out. If there is someone who has completed the Wanderer's HM command mission without being the healer, I'd love to hear from them and learn what method they used (to sate my curiosity if nothing else).

I just consider the level 50 hard modes one time challenges because they're a pain to run repeatedly (in the case of Wanderer's HM, a challenge for healers only). I focus on the other command missions for leveling and other misc needs. Sohm Al and The Vault actually offer positive GC seals if you turn in the drops you don't need, so you can use them to farm materials from seals while doing your squad stuff. If the job you want to level is too low for Sohm Al, I suggest picking one of the sub 50 missions for routine stuff or doing something else until it can be accessed.

I tried it as a WHM today. I spent an hour working on that first boss before I finally got him. I recorded a video of it. I wound up leaving and coming back since I was running out of time. This second time, I took him down the first try with very little issue. I noticed that this time, he didn't throw nearly as many spears as he did last time. It was fairly easy. The second boss was a cakewalk once I figured out that I just needed to absorb the damage up totems. The final boss was a pain due to the totems and the aoe cleave. The doom wasn't an issue since it was always cast on me and I could easily heal it. However, once I started ignoring all the mechanics, except doom, and let the boss stand in his totems, he was easy. I just kept medica 2 and renew on everyone and nuked occasionally.

hmm, I didn't have any particular problems when I ran it as WAR (beyond dying to trash 1 or 2 times because I pulled too much), the 2 DPS got the spears on first boss down quick enough by themselves. Didn't really pay attention though on last boss, to whether the healer properly topped me off, or if it was the self heals from inner beast & storms path

Had the same problem in Brayflox's Longstop with the last boss as a DPS. Tank doesn't move out of aoe's and even it you pull them out by command, the healer still let's everyone die, because he will not cleanse the bleed. Wiped many times before i gave up on it.

The tank/healer AI should get some adjustment for some specific bosses.

If you can't beat it , it means you have not set your AI properly for your healer or they are low on their stats, need to level them up a bit. I just dps if they are properly set it actually works better than having people who think they know the job.

Problem with this Command Mission:

Final boss always targets ME with Doom. I also have no time to dps because he does that super huge cone AoE, and soon after puts a flag thing down. Then I have to tell my team to disengage and pull him out of the aura, then continue dpsing. But if I have Doom, I can't disengage because then I won't get the Doom cleansed by the healer. Then there are times where he targets me for the rot gas/vorpal wheel when I'm not even top threat. It's too frustrating. I wiped about 8x before I gave up. First boss was a pain too (took 4 tries) because the AoE damage is a huge heal check and the other dps aren't helping with the sacred spears. I literally could only do 1 GCD on the boss before he threw another spear down. This is a terrible dungeon for command mission.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Problem with this Command Mission:

Final boss always targets ME with Doom. I also have no time to dps because he does that super huge cone AoE, and soon after puts a flag thing down. Then I have to tell my team to disengage and pull him out of the aura, then continue dpsing. But if I have Doom, I can't disengage because then I won't get the Doom cleansed by the healer. Then there are times where he targets me for the rot gas/vorpal wheel when I'm not even top threat. It's too frustrating. I wiped about 8x before I gave up. First boss was a pain too (took 4 tries) because the AoE damage is a huge heal check and the other dps aren't helping with the sacred spears. I literally could only do 1 GCD on the boss before he threw another spear down. This is a terrible dungeon for command mission.

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I think the first boss is bugged somehow. The frequency of the spears isn't the same each time I fought him. The video I linked above shows that at 50%, he throws two spears in a row then start doing a fire angon, fire angon, charge, spear over and over again until he's dead. He throws a spear every 6-7 seconds. I left and then came back. The next time when he hit 50%, he threw two spears then did a fire angon, fire angon, charge, spear and then stopped. He didn't throw anymore spears after that. That fight, he threw a total of 5 spears while the video in my post above he threw something like 21 or 22.

Edit: Here's a video of a bard doing it. https://youtu.be/ODG-hVJpAfk?t=5m54s
Here you can see that after 50%, he throws two spears in a row then does fire angon, fire angon, charge spear and then stops. He throws another spear later, but there's a break. A total of 6 spears was thrown here. My second run was like this but I think I killed him faster so he didn't get that second spear off. Completely different pace than the video I posted above.