4.4 dungeons are a step in the right direction

It only took 4 patches, but finally, it's starting to feel like we've gotten actual expert dungeons. I don't remember a single level 70 dungeon whose final boss wiped my party in the first week, until now. The Burn's second boss almost did my group in, and the final boss took us out three times before we all got on the same page. Same with the optional dungeon - the final boss was interesting enough that we wiped once before figuring it out.

I like that. Finally, some dungeons that actually have earned their title of lvl 70 expert. Or at least, that's the right direction to be going in. I do hope that future dungeons that end up in the expert roulette continue this trend. This is what I had hoped for when asking for a gradual step-up in difficulty.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

It only took 4 patches, but finally, it's starting to feel like we've gotten actual expert dungeons. I don't remember a single level 70 dungeon whose final boss wiped my party in the first week, until now. The Burn's second boss almost did my group in, and the final boss took us out three times before we all got on the same page. Same with the optional dungeon - the final boss was interesting enough that we wiped once before figuring it out.

I like that. Finally, some dungeons that actually have earned their title of lvl 70 expert. Or at least, that's the right direction to be going in. I do hope that future dungeons that end up in the expert roulette continue this trend. This is what I had hoped for when asking for a gradual step-up in difficulty.

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Many one shot the dungeon without fear of dying. Those in 360+ thought the place just meh. I know for sure once people get the *new* gear. it will be snore fest once again as always.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

Many one shot the dungeon without fear of dying. Those in 360+ thought the place just meh. I know for sure once people get the *new* gear. it will be snore fest once again as always.

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Oh I agree that once more people start gearing up and become familiar with the mechanics, it'll be as easy as previous dungeons. I'm just saying that it is refreshing that the dungeons have a little bit of a bite to them for once. I'm not a good player by any means, but even I found the previous level 70 dungeons after Ala Mhigo to be rather lacking for something being labeled as a level 70 expert dungeon. Obviously, YMMY, but that's just my own opinion about it. I hope this trend continues and the next dungeon doesn't regress back to being faceroll on patch week.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

It only took 4 patches, but finally, it's starting to feel like we've gotten actual expert dungeons. I don't remember a single level 70 dungeon whose final boss wiped my party in the first week, until now. The Burn's second boss almost did my group in, and the final boss took us out three times before we all got on the same page. Same with the optional dungeon - the final boss was interesting enough that we wiped once before figuring it out.

I like that. Finally, some dungeons that actually have earned their title of lvl 70 expert. Or at least, that's the right direction to be going in. I do hope that future dungeons that end up in the expert roulette continue this trend. This is what I had hoped for when asking for a gradual step-up in difficulty.

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Heh...nothing beats 2.1 dungeons to this very day, with pharos being so difficult that the first boss was nerfed and still kicked your behind, and the final boss making healers cringe and leave the place immediately.
Also Copperbell HM, with the final boss being super hard if you hadn't at least one ranged dps...that was fun!
And Haukke Manor, oh boy, the final boss required positioning and a lot of burst dps, it was so thrilling and exciting.

These new dungeons will be slightly harder for the next few days, but in a matter of weeks everyone will breeze through them without breaking a sweat.

Now if we could only get legitimate "savage dungeons" perhaps...

Haven't done the optional dungeon yet, only The Burn. I overall liked the dungeon's final boss. I found the final boss slightly too hard (we wiped 3-4 times), but the ones before it comparatively far too easy. I would have preferred if all three bosses had some consistency in their difficulty, leaning more towards the difficult side.

The trash was really boring, though.

Overall, though, I give the dungeon a vague score of: "it's an improvement."

as an avid ff4 fan i loved the final boss and realized quickly that were was a mechanic involving the mist form coming up, i was right and the only one who screwed that up. still had a blast though and its probably gonna be one of the few im gonna enjoy tanking in

I would really like to see them go back to 2 per patch. I've only done burns it was a nightmare for my wife to heal it as I started playing tank main in 4.X and she has been playing tank main since 2.x
She WHM as her 2nd job and we wiped on the final boss a few times but we got the clear and it was new enough content that everyone was just happy.

The bosses have some mechanics that are actually dangerous this time around, but I'd still like if there was less trash mobs in exchange for them being tougher and actually requiring some thought to deal with.

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The 2 new Dungeons are same as always
Pull Trash to Wall - 1st Boss
Pull Trash to Wall - 2nd Boss
Pull Trash to Wall - Final Boss

Bosses have easy Mechanics, so nothing special at all^^

Maybe its just because I'm high ilvl but these dungeons seem...easier. Like we burned through Arboreum in like 9 minutes. I'm used to expert dungeons being a bit harder. Keeper of the Lake was a relatively hard EX dungeon. The bosses were annoying and could wipe you easily and the final boss was a pain in the rear with all the mechanics. The fights seemed longer too.