Proposal for Continued Leveling System at 50; Meriting, Alternate Advancement, etc.

Suggestion: At Level 50, experience gained overflows toward the acquisition of Job Points (name subject to change, such as Merit Points / Alternative Advancement). These Job Points can be used to enhance class and job abilities in small ways.

Job Point Rewards may:
Reduce the cooldown of an ability, weapon skill, or magic.
Reduce the TP cost of a weapon skill.
Reduce the MP cost of a magic spell.
Increase the success rate of a debuff or debilitating effect.
Increase the duration of a buff or debuff.
Increase the potency of an ability.
Improve secondary stats such as block rate, parry rate, critical rate, etc.
Other possibilities.

Other Job Point Thoughts:
*Job Points gained under one class cannot be used on another class.
*The amount of EXP required to gain another Job Point for the class could increase with each Job Point gained.
*Job Point rewards are not shared amongst classes.
*Multiple ranks of the same job reward can be taken for a stacked effect.
*With new abilities from a level cap, creates more opportunities to add to this system.

Example for el Black Mage:
A player who really enjoys playing a Black Mage at Level 50 can continue to enhance their spells as a Black Mage in small ways. Numbers are arbitrary.

Investing 3 Job Points to reduce the MP cost of Thundaga by 15%.
Investing 2 Job Points to reduce the recast time of Parsimony by 10 seconds.
Investing 5 Job Points to reduce enmity from Thunder spells by 20%.
Investing 2 Job Points to increase the chance of landing Blizzara's Bind effect by 4%.

/example for Black Mage

Where a player still performs at a certain base level even without any Job Point investment. And as the player continues to play as their preferred job, performing leves, caravan security, quests, spirit binding, strongholds, and primal fights at level 50, they will earn the EXP toward gaining more Job Points.

Do not want. I'm like these sorts of things being added when the game has reached a level cap that it intends to stay with for quite some time, but I don't believe that level 50 will be our cap for very long once 2.0 hits.

True, I don't think the level cap will be 50 post 2.0.

Ideally for me, I would have liked to have this extra layer of advancement even while leveling up.

There's no Final Fantasy that can be used for pure comparison. A Final Fantasy that has an AP/JP/LP system will use those points to unlock job abilities, traits, or even access to equipment.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

True, I don't think the level cap will be 50 post 2.0.

Ideally for me, I would have liked to have this extra layer of advancement even while leveling up.

There's no Final Fantasy that can be used for pure comparison. A Final Fantasy that has an AP/JP/LP system will use those points to unlock job abilities, traits, or even access to equipment.

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First of all, the current game will no longer be once 2.0 rolls out. So, instead of a stat reset, they'll leave the cap in place as is. You're delusional in thinking there will be meaningful content for end game when the game is going through an overhaul. They are not allowing you to progress too far ahead of the new players (those on the PS3) so this suggestion is pretty much DOA.

Secondly, level other classes you have in the meantime. If you are getting bored, then here's a suggestion: go play other games. There's plenty of titles like Rift, SW:TOR, Skyrim, Amalur, etc. to keep yourself occupied. You're pretty much in the upper 5% of players who've consumed pretty much all that SE has to offer in FFXIV and unfortunately SE doesn't develop or program games to only be enjoyed by that small "elite, hardcore" group. Either wait until 2.0 or go find some other way to derive entertainment from this game ... or just go play other games.

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Originally Posted by Discordia

First of all, the current game will no longer be once 2.0 rolls out. So, instead of a stat reset, they'll leave the cap in place as is. You're delusional in thinking there will be meaningful content for end game when the game is going through an overhaul. They are not allowing you to progress too far ahead of the new players (those on the PS3) so this suggestion is pretty much DOA.

Secondly, level other classes you have in the meantime. If you are getting bored, then here's a suggestion: go play other games. There's plenty of titles like Rift, SW:TOR, Skyrim, Amalur, etc. to keep yourself occupied. You're pretty much in the upper 5% of players who've consumed pretty much all that SE has to offer in FFXIV and unfortunately SE doesn't develop or program games to only be enjoyed by that small "elite, hardcore" group. Either wait until 2.0 or go find some other way to derive entertainment from this game ... or just go play other games.

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I'm certain you have misunderstood me on multiple levels based on your response. Although tis' unlikely you will return to these forums, let alone this topic, to discover my response to you. Anyhew...

I don't think I mentioned a stat reset. Perhaps I gave the impression that the Job Points were a replacement to the current system as opposed to being on top of the current system or even part of 2.0? And that it somehow it wouldn't also apply to the entire populace of PS3 players SE is expecting (as referenced in the "even while leveling up" you quoted)?

Your second point does not apply to me at all. You would have to be delusional to think I'm in this 5% group of elite or hardcore (5% of forum posters that post pizza and Pikachu with gun threads maybe).

Or that the 393 players on Palamecia alone with all War and Magic classes at 50 constitute 5% of the active subscribers to this game. That's not including folks that only have one or some in the 50's. Do a search for Levels 1-49, then a search of 50's. Whether you think being 50 is elite or hardcore, they are most likely the ones that will carry their subscriptions over to 2.0.

Ah well... we'll see.