Return player saddened by loss of some of the cross-class functionality....

I'm actually one of those players that don't really care for the "optimum" build all the time, but like to tinker with multi-classing customization just to shake things up during the MMO grind.

One thing I LOVED being able to do as a black mage in this game was cast cure and protect on myself from the conjurer cross skill (and I had decent mind too), and that totally went away with the goofy role trait shit. No more cure in "Magical DPS" role group. It got replaced with a 'drain life' which seems a lot weaker and not the same (potency 80 vs 450?). I even had this fun rotation while leveling where I was able to rotate just right to be the last one surviving a boss battle through mixing cures in just right and got praises from the group.

Now it's all GONE!!! (cries in corner...)

Why not try Red Mage?

All the cross class system did was force people to level jobs they didn't want to.

It's why I'm never going to be a crafter. Not because I don't want to craft, I just got invest the time in levelling 10 different but almost identical jobs at once.

Drain is superior to Cure, and it's still garbage.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Why not try Red Mage?

All the cross class system did was force people to level jobs they didn't want to.

It's why I'm never going to be a crafter. Not because I don't want to craft, I just got invest the time in levelling 10 different but almost identical jobs at once.

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I'm totally with you there on crafting. I hate all crafting in MMO's so I never craft.

However, I actually didn't mind having to level up other classes/jobs for the skills because I tend to be an alt freak anyway. Coming from a background of 2nd and 3rd edition D&D and DDO, I just LOVE toying around with multiclass stuff and other customization crap.

Actually, it was the Red Mage job in my email that got me back trying this for it was my favorite class from the original nintendo game.

IDK, the limited customization there is now just from a general pool of abilities feels to much what WOW dissolved into after they ditched talent trees. I didn't like that either....

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Drain is superior to Cure, and it's still garbage.

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Yea, but I only made it to level 44, and it kept me alive better than drain from what I recall...the point is being a black mage casting white magic was awesome.

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Originally Posted by maestroanth

Yea, but I only made it to level 44, and it kept me alive better than drain from what I recall...the point is being a black mage casting white magic was awesome.

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This stops almost immediately after level 50 when Intelligence starts outpacing Mind. You would have been rather sore on this regardless of the Role system because healing 450 health out of 20,000 is worthless.

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Originally Posted by maestroanth

Actually, it was the Red Mage job in my email that got me back trying this for it was my favorite class from the original nintendo game.

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While it doesn't have protect, RDM does have a ton of utility. Including the ability to heal oneself far better than cross class cure ever could, chain cast rezzes, and so on. Try it out? It sounds like you'll like it.

The half way scrapping of cross-class was a bit lame to be honest.

Not only because I actually quite liked it and thought it could be salvaged, but also because as I said, it only went half way. Crafting classes are still using the old system instead of role-skills.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Why not try Red Mage?

All the cross class system did was force people to level jobs they didn't want to.

It's why I'm never going to be a crafter. Not because I don't want to craft, I just got invest the time in levelling 10 different but almost identical jobs at once.

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Well, I finally got to 50 and tried Red Mage last night. For whatever reason it out nukes my native black mage class, so I'm like wth is that? But it's a really fun class! Dual-cast is fricken great and popping in and out of melee was a good choice (I think lower cooldowns for the popping in and out moves would help though).

My only criticism of RedMage is that in the original FF they got to use shields, long swords, and heavier armors like at least chainmail, but I guess a dainty rapier will suffice for now ;P

Thank god I made a female toon or else it might feel kinda gay ;p

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Originally Posted by Jandor

The half way scrapping of cross-class was a bit lame to be honest.

Not only because I actually quite liked it and thought it could be salvaged, but also because as I said, it only went half way. Crafting classes are still using the old system instead of role-skills.

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I agree, it could have been salvaged. Aesthetically, in a game where you can have one toon with levels in different jobs or classes, it's a MUST to have some sort of cross-class implementation.

If not, I think a better half-way would have been ditching classes or jobs (like dump thaumaturg and conjuror) completely and to have just one gigantic pool of general abilities for everyone instead of "role traits for magical dps", "role traits for physical melee", etc., which in my opinion is kinda retarded.

The way they have it now is too WoW-esque for my taste....