Just because DRK cleared ultimate first doesn't mean it doesn't need buffs

Just making that clear. While it doesn't need too much buffing overall, it could use some buffs and some skills need reworking like Dark Mind and Dark Passenger still. I think it could use some more DPS overall, too, so that it's a bit more DPS than PLD for the tradeoff of less utility and defenses.

My fantasy of the three tanks is this:
PLD: Super defensive and lots of utility, brings least DPS to trade off for this. Excels in prog, not as necessary in farm.
DRK: Perfect mix and balance between offenses and defenses. Trades some defenses and utility that PLD brings for more offense and DPS gains. Excels as MT in farm parties, or as OT in prog parties.
WAR: Super offensive with minimal defenses and utility. Trades lots of defenses and utility for much more DPS gains. Excels as OT in farm parties, not so great in prog.

Of course, I want every tank to be perfectly viable as MT or OT in all prog or farm parties.

you dont even main DRK you have PLD as main class why is this topic being made? theres like a million other dark knight topics about this.

I main PLD/DRK equally. I can't pick both for my main class showing on forums. It also feels bad when my DRK is only a small amount of DPS higher than my PLD despite being played nearly optimally. I'd like to see it 150-200 DPS higher at least.

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Originally Posted by Mithron

I main PLD/DRK equally. I can't pick both for my main class showing on forums. It also feels bad when my DRK is only a small amount of DPS higher than my PLD despite being played nearly optimally. I'd like to see it 150-200 DPS higher at least.

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DRK WF cleared Ultimate.

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Originally Posted by Gojin

DRK WF cleared Ultimate.

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Lets stop pretending that means something other than viability and skilled players, many if not all of the team were WF on the original coils. You don't need to main Dark Knight to know that the dark knight situation is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Gojin

DRK WF cleared Ultimate.

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Have a feeling you are a troll but I'll humor you. DRK WF cleared Ultimate... huh, I don't remember people ever saying they weren't viable. Just that they have issue upon issue upon issue that makes them unenjoyable and unrewarding. They have the worst defensives, worst DPS, and 0 raidwide utility... simply put they have no niche. Even then, DRK is better than War in ONE, ONE fight in the game where in 99% of other fights they are meh at best.

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Originally Posted by Deathshiro

Have a feeling you are a troll but I'll humor you. DRK WF cleared Ultimate... huh, I don't remember people ever saying they weren't viable. Just that they have issue upon issue upon issue that makes them unenjoyable and unrewarding. They have the worst defensives, worst DPS, and 0 raidwide utility... simply put they have no niche. Even then, DRK is better than War in ONE, ONE fight in the game where in 99% of other fights they are meh at best.

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Only thing to add to this is we don't even know if dark is best after progression. We cannot even say this about prog yet. Lets see who the first 10 clear parties are on ultimate. Lots of people started savage as pld/drk comp. Now dark knight is only about 20% of tank clears on savage.

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Originally Posted by Gojin

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How have you not been B& yet?

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Originally Posted by Mithron

WAR: Super offensive with minimal defenses and utility. Trades lots of defenses and utility for much more DPS gains. Excels as OT in farm parties, not so great in prog.

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Do you... play WAR or just gather this from the general idea surrounding WAR?

WAR wasn't WF in any raid tier this expansion. Dead class SE buff us like PLD pls.

Me can't wait till SE decides to do a ending turn with high physical TBs!