SMN is crazy fun now wtf

ruin 3 being the standard spell is amazing and with the no cast during DWT combined with all the bahamut shenanigans, its like a one man firework machine

It flows pretty well from what I've done so far. Ruin 4 feels awesome, ruin 3 spam is pretty neat, it feels good to go DWT and deathflare fools.

I haven't even begun looking into rotations for it yet though lol but I do enjoy the ruin updates.

yes, the Ruin change really helped smooth things out for me, I find it more intuitive

hmm how do i tell bahamut to stop moving?

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

hmm how do i tell bahamut to stop moving?

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Can't. You have to sit still if you want him to. Which means you need to time him for intervals you know you won't need to move and adjust.

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Originally Posted by dotsforlife

Can't. You have to sit still if you want him to. Which means you need to time him for intervals you know you won't need to move and adjust.

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i see, does he do anything besides akh morn? he seems to just kinda stand there

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

i see, does he do anything besides akh morn? he seems to just kinda stand there

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He casts wyrmwaves for every action that you put on an enemy. So ideally during one summon of bahamut, you want him to do 11 wyrmwaves (and 2 ahk morns), though this isn't always possible and you'll get better at it. This is why you want to wait to summon bahamut until you have your aetherflow back from your last dreadwyrm trance.

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

i see, does he do anything besides akh morn? he seems to just kinda stand there

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he attacks when you attack. he can do two akh morns in a summon. and no....you cannot place him...

so would ruin 2 spam during bahamut summon maximize his dps?

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

so would ruin 2 spam during bahamut summon maximize his dps?

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Yes. Ideally it should go something like:

ruin 2 (aetherflow)->ruin 2 (summon bahamut+fester)->ruin 2 (ahk morn)->ruin 2 (fester)->ruin 2 (addle)->ruin 2 (fester)->ruin 2 (tri disaster)->ruin 2 (ahk morn)->bahamut de-summons

It won't always play out like this depending on the fight, and sometimes you might need to save addle for hard-hitting raid wides if you're doing high level content (almaghests), but in casual content you should be able to make this work.