SE, it is time to speak up

I dont know what you are doing but tons and tons of people including myself are disappointed and pissed off that we didn't get a house in Shirogane. What do you gain by this awful housing system? Even if we did manage to get a house, we'd still be under the penalty of losing one after a period of time. I say it is time to speak up about the housing system and solve it. It is not fun to get up when servers go up and then we have to play RNG in hopes of getting past errors first and then realize by the time you get on, all the houses are gone because some people are luckier than others. There is no excuse to add more plots and it's beyond me why you don't look at the tons and tons of complaints on here about your awful housing system. Get rid of it because it is awful and make the player have the ability to let housemates reset the timer on keeping a house. I'm extremely dissatisfied with the silence on adding more plots because it should be on the priority list. You dont know whether fcs are house hoarding on alts or alt characters too. It HAS to stop. Stop this stupid race to housing areas and give more players a chance at the new housing area. /rant over

To the people saying it is expensive to add wards... they just ADDED swimming into housing areas and cut down resources to make two expert dungeons. There is plenty of opportunity to add new wards and plots.


Edit: SE have spoken! http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-in-Patch-4.1

Even if server was perfect, people will miss out. Who are you goign to blame then? Hacker? Pos porter?

Adding and maintaining more wards is expensive, and the reason this patch has been otherwise light on content. SE can't simply 'add more'. There *is* instanced housing in the form of apartments, but everyone seems to snub their noses at it for not being as good as the persistent offering. As for "Get rid of it", you're simply being spiteful to those who managed to get a plot. "If I can't have [thing], then nobody else can have [thing]!" is what you're saying.

Also, did this really have to be it's own thread?

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Originally Posted by Kyoraki

There *is* instanced housing in the form of apartments, but everyone seems to snub their noses at it for not being as good as the persistent offering.

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Please. Can you share an apartment with an FC? Can you build a Workshop? Can you share it with your SO or a friend?
It's not even a two story apartment, it's just a silly FC room which may be OK for a single person. It's is not the ideal solution to the housing problem. Period.

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Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki

It's is not the ideal solution to the housing problem. Period.

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But it's a better starting point than scrapping persistent housing wards entirely out of some misguided sense of jealousy. Fix the problem by adding features onto a system already in place, not by taking them away from another.

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Originally Posted by Kyoraki

Adding and maintaining more wards is expensive, and the reason this patch has been otherwise light on content. SE can't simply 'add more'. There *is* instanced housing in the form of apartments, but everyone seems to snub their noses at it for not being as good as the persistent offering. As for "Get rid of it", you're simply being spiteful to those who managed to get a plot. "If I can't have [thing], then nobody else can have [thing]!" is what you're saying.

Also, did this really have to be it's own thread?

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SE has no excuse since they cut down the resources to make 2 expert dungeons and even added swimming in all housing areas. Nah, it's not expensive for them at all. I'm not being spiteful by saying that the housing system is awful because it really is. This just encourages stress and nothing more. There will always be dissatisfied players but the Shirogane housing problem has created more than ever.

OH sure buy an appartment as soon as SE makes it possible to have a indoor garden i will. But no you can't cross breed plants in flower pots. stupid limitations that have absolutely no use

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Originally Posted by Kyoraki

But it's a better starting point than scrapping persistent housing wards entirely out of some misguided sense of jealousy. Fix the problem by adding features onto a system already in place, not by taking them away from another.

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You wouldn't have to scrap the existing wards. Even if they ultimately did, it changes nothing for those who already have one. They would simply be reimbursed or have their plot carried over into an instanced system where everyone gets to enjoy housing in lieu of maybe 10%. Apartments aren't instanced housing. They are glorified FC rooms with none of the benefits. Making penthouse apartment would at least be something though. I'll grant that.

they just should do 24 wards than only 12.^^ sure it iwll not be enough either. but still helps alot and more houses to get by inactivity from other player.

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Originally Posted by Kyoraki

But it's a better starting point than scrapping persistent housing wards entirely out of some misguided sense of jealousy. Fix the problem by adding features onto a system already in place, not by taking them away from another.

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But the starting having there before this patch. People are just asking for the transition stage which is accommodate a better solution that the apaetments that we have already