More story Quests... more class quests... this has been talked about ad nauseum and will, more than likely, go on ad infinitum...
But there is an equally pressing issue.... the current quests don't have the immersive qualities that they should.
For starters, they are extremely unintuitive.
The Journal is a reference..... and is, in theory, written by your character. You should be able to finish a quest without having to look at your journal. The quest itself should reveal clues as to where you have to go. Instead, the Story and Class quest NPC's give vague mention of where you have to go, so that you can read it with a little more clarity in your journal, or more importantly, just look at the journal map to see where to go...
How the hell does my journal know where to go and I don't? There is NO WAY, using the clues given by the guilds, to know where your next destination is? I know, it seems like a little thing... but it removes you from being fully immersed in the game... from having the joy of figuring out the quest. And its kind of insulting that they don't even wanna give us the chance to find our own way, so they just tell us about the mission and magically update our journal...
That ties into the fact that the English NPC dialogue is horrendous...
Its overly wordy and uninteresting... To call them verbose would be an understatement.
It makes me want to go learn Japanese, play the game in Japanese and figure out if it was a writers fail or just a translation fail.
It could be that they've been doing too many talkies and not enough typies...
Meaning they have done pretty much all voice acting in games since FFX, excluding XI, which had more simple, engrossing dialogue
For the new quest NPC's, most people I've talked to just skip through the dialogue and get to the quest accept screen.
And it transcends quests. the majority of NPC's have very poor English dialogue and it makes it so you don't even care to listen to what they have to say. Give us better dialogue all around...
Most of the offline titles feature some narrative exposition to simplify certain parts of the plot. Others (See FFVII) constantly have the party sitting down to discuss the events thus far, mainly for the sake of the player.
that is not possible in this setting, so the half baked ramblings of the NPC's need to be rehashed.
As it stands, I have no feelings, good or bad, about any of the NPC's in the game... I take that back, I like War wolf for his sword. The dialogue is pretty much all we have and it needs to make us LOVE or HATE the characters, depending on their place in the story.
Even the early main story quests that take place in each city are convoluted and messy....
Could the quests be different? probably.... Better? Maybe...
But a little dialogue goes a long way... And I mean that literally and figuratively
NPC dialogue - love it or hate it?
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03-17-2011, 02:27 AMRydinNPC dialogue - love it or hate it?
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03-17-2011, 02:36 AMPeregrine
Well they beefed up their translation services which are really spectacular in and of themselves, and are trying to show it off. I guess it does come across the same way FMV and cutscenes did in the disc-based FFs. Okay Bahamut get your ass back behind the moon we get it. You just gave every mob within a mile of this place our location AND the time to get here. Thanks.
Same way with the pirate speak. Holy crap just shut up shut up I'm sorry I even asked. Ai'n wit yer biggin 'ot wad?
...what? NEVERMIND! -
03-17-2011, 02:39 AMRydinOh My God YES!!!!!... the pirate speak is annoying... Leave the Jack Sparrow to Depp... Its so bad... they could have made the pirate more subtle... it would have gone a lot furtherQuote:
Originally Posted by Peregrine
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03-17-2011, 02:41 AMPeregrine
You have to love Mimina though. Bleeding' facilities? The only thing that amazes me more than you fancyin' yourself a crafter, is you fancyin' I give a shite. Go on and use em', what do I care?
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03-17-2011, 02:45 AMCairdeas
I like the dialog :P
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03-17-2011, 02:47 AMRydinTrue, there are a few Gems... all the Sephiroth references... The faction guildleve people are cool (War Wolf, Diego, Koppo Aroppo), and I swear someone in one of the Gladiator class quests said "Kill that Bitch"Quote:
Originally Posted by Peregrine
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03-17-2011, 02:49 AMEekiki
Yeah, I find the whole pirate thing to be tiring. It seems SE has a knack for being a few years behind popular trends. Remember how everyone in FFXII talked like Lord of the Rings? Now everyone in XIV talks like Pirates of the Carribean.
Now, if you want an example of a perfectly localized game: Chrono Chross. That's how it's done.
EDIT: I do, however, applaud SE for the reference to the Radiohead video for the song "Just" I saw when I talked to an NPC in Ul'dah. -
03-17-2011, 02:54 AMSirEdeonX
I love the dialogs. Except for Limsa XD I need a translator everytime I go there O.o
I've heard people talk about the Sephiroth references, can't you explain moooore ;P I haven't seen them yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rydin
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03-17-2011, 03:27 AMRydin"Why, if it isn't Sephiroth! Or was it Sefiross? Sethirophx? xXxSephirothxXx? There are so many adventurers with similar names these days, it is so hard to recall them all."Quote:
Originally Posted by SirEdeonX
-Diego Athral-
he says that during a Horn and Hand faction leve....
Someone else references all the Cloud and Sephiroth type names... but I can't remember for the life of me who that was.... -
03-17-2011, 03:56 AMSirEdeonXLool that's nice XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Rydin