Newbie Black Mage rotation questions.

I got the basic BLM rotation down.
however, there are a few procs in it and they don't always happen at the most optimal time so i was wondering where to fit them in and how to prioritize certain procs & skills.
Especially since the BLM rotation is somewhat tight & I really don't want to lose Enochian.

1) When F3 procs after using F1 I usually do this F4, F4, F4, F3 proc, Convert, F4, F4, B3.
However, when Convert is on CD, when do I use the F3 proc? Just use it whenever (or when mobility is needed) before I go back to UI? Or is that a DPS loss?

2)When is the best time to use the Thunder 3 proc? I don't have the spell speed (yet?) to cast it right after going to AF or I won't make my 3x F4. (I assume this won't be a problem once I get a good amount of Spellspeed?

3) When I go to AF while thunder3 might fall off sometime during the AF rotation, is it better to cast it anyway & clip a bit, or cast it somewhere during AF so it doesn't fall off, or should I let it fall off & cast it in the next UI phase?

4) Do I always use Foul after B3 or is it sometimes better to cast while in AF? (so I don't waste any Polyglots.)

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Originally Posted by IchiExorz

I got the basic BLM rotation down.
however, there are a few procs in it and they don't always happen at the most optimal time so i was wondering where to fit them in and how to prioritize certain procs & skills.
Especially since the BLM rotation is somewhat tight & I really don't want to lose Enochian.

1) When F3 procs after using F1 I usually do this F4, F4, F4, F3 proc, Convert, F4, F4, B3.
However, when Convert is on CD, when do I use the F3 proc? Just use it whenever (or when mobility is needed) before I go back to UI? Or is that a DPS loss?

2)When is the best time to use the Thunder 3 proc? I don't have the spell speed (yet?) to cast it right after going to AF or I won't make my 3x F4. (I assume this won't be a problem once I get a good amount of Spellspeed?

3) When I go to AF while thunder3 might fall off sometime during the AF rotation, is it better to cast it anyway & clip a bit, or cast it somewhere during AF so it doesn't fall off, or should I let it fall off & cast it in the next UI phase?

4) Do I always use Foul after B3 or is it sometimes better to cast while in AF? (so I don't waste any Polyglots.)

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1) You can save the F3 proc till the end of the rotation casting it right before you go back into UI with B3. Also if you have convert available you can do for instance F4->F4->F4->F1->F4->F4->F4->F3 proc(Extending your AF timer so you don't lose enochian)->convert->F4->F4->B3

2) If you have enough time left on the buff so it doesn't run out before you enter UI use it in UI, if you will lose it use in in between 2 F4 casts.

3) Yes, clipping is ok as long as T3 has already ticked atleast TWICE when you refresh it. Never cast it during AF.

4) With the 4.05 changes you can pretty much use it anywhere without penalty. However, it is best used in UI for a couple reasons. A) You may enter UI with low mp in this scenario you can cast foul instead of waiting for a mp server tick. B) Your AF timer may run out if you try and cast foul + your normal fire rotation. But if you are about to get a 2nd foul is better you cast it and perhaps miss a F4 cast than to lose out on it entirely. Foul does more dps than F4.

Additionally, a proc'ed T3 is always a dps gain. There are optimal places to put it into your rotation if timing allows, but it's worth using the proc over F4 if you'll lose it otherwise.

Thanks both! Really cleared some stuff up for me.