Possible AST nerf

If they nerf the shielding strength of Aspected Benefic and Aspected Helios, I swear I will not play AST anymore. I was growing sick of having to rely on Diurnal before SBs launch because Nocturnal shielding was just awful. AST is fine where it is and I even swap between Diurnal and Nocturnal as needed, please dont nerf my class D:

Your shields are stronger than a SCHs right now unless that SCH crits. Top that off with cards and you have effectively pushed a Job well out of a Job lol. You need a few nerfs you shouldn't be that strong when you bring entire group buffs and make the group just outright better just by being there.

I switched from WHM to AST this expansion and even I think it's a bit overpowered. I'm not saying it needs a nerf, but WHM and SCH definitely need some attention to level the playing field a bit.

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Originally Posted by Reilyn

Your shields are stronger than a SCHs right now unless that SCH crits. Top that off with cards and you have effectively pushed a Job well out of a Job lol. You need a few nerfs you shouldn't be that strong when you bring entire group buffs and make the group just outright better just by being there.

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If SCH and WHM are falling behind, they are the problem, they are the ones needing a buff. AST is not the one that needs to be changed. I never once before used the shields of AST because they just simply sucked. I see no point in Nocturnal if the shields are just going to suck again.

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Originally Posted by Ootarion

If SCH and WHM are falling behind, they are the problem, they are the ones needing a buff. AST is not the one that needs to be changed. I never once before used the shields of AST because they just simply sucked. I see no point in Nocturnal if it is just going to suck again.

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You do realize that, as far as development time goes (which costs money), it takes a lot less time to alter 1 job than it does to alter 2+ jobs.

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Originally Posted by Ootarion

If SCH and WHM are falling behind, they are the problem, they are the ones needing a buff. AST is not the one that needs to be changed. I never once before used the shields of AST because they just simply sucked. I see no point in Nocturnal if it is just going to suck again.

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It doesn't need to suck again but it shouldn't put SCH's out of a job, nor should the healing creep get worse just because one class was overbuffed well beyond what it should be. AST should be comparable to the other classes but not LEAGUES better at their specific gimmicks, having the cards instead should make up the bulk of whatever difference exists. Nothing either SCH or WHM can dish out even compares to the utility of the cards, and having AST well outpace everything else on top of that is silly.

You shouldn't be going noct anyways cz it's poop

I don't mind that AST shields are stronger than a non crit SCH adloquium. SCH has a constant source of MP-free, stack-free, gcd-free healing in their fairy on top of their GCD heals. An AST in nocturnal sect doesn't have nearly as many off-GCD healing options let alone a fairy doing a lot of work on top of their GCDs.

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Originally Posted by Enla

It doesn't need to suck again but it shouldn't put SCH's out of a job, nor should the healing creep get worse just because one class was overbuffed well beyond what it should be. AST should be comparable to the other classes but not LEAGUES better at their specific gimmicks, having the cards instead should make up the bulk of whatever difference exists. Nothing either SCH or WHM can dish out even compares to the utility of the cards, and having AST well outpace everything else on top of that is silly.

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I used to main a WHM, and have gotten mine high in lvl, not as high as my AST but still high. I know for a fact that WHM can still outshine AST in several ways. WHM has better damage, due in part to having two DoTs and Stone is by far stronger then Malefic, WHM can make its MP costs ZERO for 12 seconds AND has several VERY powerful off global cooldown heals, AST cant compare to those off globals. WHM even has better MP management. There is no where in this that WHM is being outclassed in EVERY regard compared to AST, not one bit.

AST needed this buff to Nocturnal Shielding, i know that for a fact, I simply refused to use Nocturnal before SBs launch, there was NO POINT in it. Right now, Nocturnal actually has a use cause the shields are actually meaningful! D:

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Originally Posted by Velox

You do realize that, as far as development time goes (which costs money), it takes a lot less time to alter 1 job than it does to alter 2+ jobs.

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That doesnt matter in the slightest, not when it comes to proper balancing, you dont nerf a class needlessly just to avoid buffing two others when they obviously need the buffs. This isnt how you properly balance. It is obvious that SCH and MAYBE WHM are underpowered right now.