SE, we need to talk about your zone ceilings

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Why, SE? What is this nonsense? @_@

No chance of getting up to the flag post M'naago did her Thing from, either. That's even higher than this no-go-platform.

I understand that with flying there has to be SOME Z-axis limit, but at least have it make sense? Things like this are why your zones feel so claustrophobic!

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Originally Posted by Naunet

zones feel so claustrophobic!

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That is the last thing I feel in any zone in this game lol.

I agree. I wanted to fly in Yanxia above the Moon Gates or heck, I'd take flying through the top circle, but couldn't. Also wanted to fly above the pillars there to see the area more clearly, maybe make some nice gpose screenshots, but... no dice. Yanxia is my fav new zone and it just breaks my heart that the height limit is so low there. :(

cant even fly over the mountain in Yanxia

The relatively low ceilings are a bit aggravating at times, as is the general inconsistency of what you can and can't land on, but I'd hardly claim the zones feel even the least bit claustrophobic.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

I understand that with flying there has to be SOME Y-axis limit, but at least have it make sense? Things like this are why your zones feel so claustrophobic!

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You mean Z-axis.

And I'm not sure how you get claustrophobic, most of the game is designed large enough that a gobbue or magitek armor can walk through everything. Switch to first-person view just about anywhere and notice that even regular doors in the game would be the equivalent of 12' tall and 6' wide at the smallest. Very little in the game is actually sized correctly if the people building the world from within the game cared about cost. I could get Uldah being large and extravagant, but it was built by Lalafells, why are the doors to everything in each city large enough to drive a wagon into it? Every door in the game is wider than a typical garage door in real life.

There are several things in the game once flying was enabled in the zone that doesn't make any kind of sense, but they have to set a ceiling at some point, and it takes up more memory the larger the "cube" is.

In most games, flying is just a trick to begin with. It's just moving the entire world's z-origin away from you.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

You mean Z-axis.

And I'm not sure how you get claustrophobic

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Thanks for the correction. Fixed!

As for how I get claustrophobic... From the endless invisible walls that are present even on the ground funneling you through narrow tunnels. Also the very low "ceilings" in the sky that don't even come close to the taller objects. There is a perfectly walkable platform within reaching distance in my screenshot and yet SE chose to make the ceiling JUST below it. M'naago sounds her horn from the flag higher up that platform and yet we can't even come close to it. Someone else in this thread mentioned the gates in Yanxia as another example. It does make things feel claustrophobic to me.

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Very little in the game is actually sized correctly if the people building the world from within the game cared about cost. I could get Uldah being large and extravagant, but it was built by Lalafells, why are the doors to everything in each city large enough to drive a wagon into it? Every door in the game is wider than a typical garage door in real life.

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Makes sense when you think dragons were closer to people, so the doors needed to be big.

Agreed; I was really disappointed when you couldn't go up the walkway. I completely expected it to be a sightseeing log location! A lot of the locations in Stormblood would feel a lot better with a Z-axis increase.

I'll play the devil's advocate :P ...

As much as it would be nice to fly even higher, I think there's a technological reason behind the ceiling restriction. Namely two: Distance cull, and Z-axis fighting. My guess is... when you get reaaaalllllyyyy high up, the ground models and textures start to look like garbage, the maps start to have noticeable holes/gaps in them, and the textures start clipping all over the place. It would become an eyesore. So, it wouldn't make for nice screenies anyways, and wouldn't be that great to look at either while flying.