4.0 PLD so awesome...!!!!

... that half mp cost for clemency boost the usefulness of this skill over the top \o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0pMCvYg0y8

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

... that half mp cost for clemency boost the usefulness of this skill over the top \o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0pMCvYg0y8

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pleaseee dont give them a reason to nerf my fav movee then people will complain its to op even tho it is and I like it that way

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

... that half mp cost for clemency boost the usefulness of this skill over the top \o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0pMCvYg0y8

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Well, need to become castable only on a friendly target, the current version is an aberration.

Past prog clemency still sucks shit. I know unpopular thing to throw out there on there forums but it's true. Doesn't do any damage and takes away a holy spirit. Once you know the fight take that useless shit off your hotbar.

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Originally Posted by Dizzy_Derp

Past prog clemency still sucks shit. I know unpopular thing to throw out there on there forums but it's true. Doesn't do any damage and takes away a holy spirit. Once you know the fight take that useless shit off your hotbar.

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why not both? why you have to choice? situation skill have situation use, even cover has some use back then in 3.0, beside holy spirit doesn't help you much in trash pull anyway, especially now i can big pull in level 70 dungeon, clemency is the great skill when you do it, pop convalescende and requiescat for 40% more healing pot and a little timming you can have a really strong defensive cooldown in such situation which sometime i feel healer can't keep up with monster damage, and not only it heal you, it also generate very good enmity for you

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

why not both? why you have to choice? situation skill have situation use, even cover has some use back then in 3.0, beside holy spirit doesn't help you much in trash pull anyway, especially now i can big pull in level 70 dungeon, clemency is the great skill when you do it, pop convalescende and requiescat for 40% more healing pot and a little timming you can have a really strong defensive cooldown in such situation which sometime i feel healer can't keep up with monster damage, and not only it heal you, it also generate very good enmity for you

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Well comvalesence spent boost it. Using requiescat for anything other than holy spirit is revolting and using a pot that is not are is god awful especially since clemency scales off of are. That's right full are tanks are healing more for it. Not that most of them would heal in the first place. And if ypu need to clemancy for aggro you have bigger problems than your healers not being able to keep up.

Once MTs have to use full Fending gear and tank stance to survive you will add more value with using Clemency well than Holy Spirit well. Your dmg isn't going to be great even with a full Holy Spirit spam, but if you save a DPS's life with a Clem, then you're adding more overall raid damage and a greater chance to clear.

Ofc try to get the Holy Spirits in either way, but Clem > Holy Spirit priority pretty much always. Unless both healers are up and not having to deal with a lot when someone gets chunked.

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Originally Posted by Cadmus

Once MTs have to use full Fending gear and tank stance to survive you will add more value with using Clemency well than Holy Spirit well. Your dmg isn't going to be great even with a full Holy Spirit spam, but if you save a DPS's life with a Clem, then you're adding more overall raid damage and a greater chance to clear.

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I mean thete is no mt in my static, we force swaps so unless they lock us out of em they isnt enough damage they could throw at us to be forced into vit. And there is absolutely NOTHING that would force us into tank stance. If it did it would be entirely too much damage going out for average groups to ever have a prayer of clearing and we would really be back in gordias. I trust my healers, they will have no problem getting our dps if they should screw up. clemency like I said will be alright in prog garbage after.

Are we going to call pld OP because he can keep his party alive against a dungeon boss now? Really? Guess what, he could do that in 3.x too, you could even solo a lot of them if you had the time, even a 24 man raid boss was nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN6Kz6_Id8c

I guess pld was already OP in HW right? :^)

In a dungeon without difficulty is normal that you can do things like that, now try it a trial or raid, stop cry plz