WHM is much better now

At first i was afraid of the enormous amouth of changes to the only job that i can really play well but despite stoneskin missing Whm became a lot smoother in dungeons. No need to mess with cleric stance, dps feels better and assize is now a real tactical move. Like a quick medica. Good job SE. Finally a class without endless rotations~

- Juliana. Lv. 62 Whm.

WHM works surprisingly well without cleric stance.. it makes the synergy between different skills much more apparent and fluid.
Also Thin Air + Presence of Mind + Holy spam <3

Agreed on cleric. It just makes things feel a lot more fluid.

I agree with y'all on the part of the attacking and healing being of the same attribute. that part is nice. my problem comes in with the lilies not truely being of much help and the new shield that they gave us to replace stoneskin. Divine Benison, maybe it is good for one strike, but against a BOSS it doesn't even stop most of the damage. Right now it's just a waist of space all my hotbar. My problem comes in with them not truely putting much thought into PvE WHM. And I am someone who truely loves playing as WHM the most, so I am really sad that they have done more bad than good to my favorite job.

Yeah WHM is great especially MP management. There is lots of hate out there not sure why though

So I've been finishing up the MSQ as WAR and gearing up healer stuff from quests while gearing up my WAR in dungeons, so WHM is next on my list.

While running with white mages I didn't notice any real problems. I do notice I'm being hit a lot harder even in synced dungeons so I would assume (correct me if I'm wrong) that dungeon wise, I'll be using Cure / Cure II more often than we did in 3.0?

Can't say I agree with this. White Mage dps feels empty now and I can barely get a lily in my runs. The only period I've had any luck with lilies was level 52 up to 59 before I swap my Cure for Tetra.

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Originally Posted by GrislyRhyme

Yeah WHM is great especially MP management. There is lots of hate out there not sure why though

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Probably because we have to sacrifice cross skills to get what we had before :/
Still can't believe i'm a healer with no Esuna by default -_-

There is one aspect of WHM that I do not like and this would be Plenary Indulgence.

I find it to be too random and not have any specific relevance in relation to the actual mechanics of the class.

Plenary Indulgence needs to be re-worked in some fashion although I would have to see what it is like in raiding scenarios.

I said it in the WHM thread as a suggested change but something like a link to the actual Lilly mechanic where there is an extended duration of the plenary Indulgence buff based on how many lillys you have or something along those lines.

The other option is just to make plenary indulgence work with the Lilly Mechanic and having the heal based on a number of lillys you have.

I will give it the positive aspect of the actual heal is that it does not invoke the GCD giving you an extra heal.

An additional change that could be considered is adding a chance to Divine Benison that would cast a shield on the WHM it is a bit of an RNG wall which I am complaining about with the Plenary Indulgence but then again it would work with the mechanics that are given to us.

You could even instead of the WHM give it a chance to cast the shield on a party member with the lowest HP.

The cooldown reduction on Assize and Tetragrammaton are a welcome change.

The boost on Cure Potency is actually really good and the MP Management of WHM is a lot better.

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Yeah WHM is great especially MP management. There is lots of hate out there not sure why though

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Lillies and Confession stacks.

WHM is viable, and works very well without CS but that doesn't mean its good or balanced. The new mechanics are clunky, needless and unintuitive demanding one to play inefficiently to make use of them. If you can get RNG to grace you that is. SCH is in a worse place, but AST is so far and away better than both its unreal.

Also OP is only lv. 62. Which is when you learn Thin Air. An amazing Cooldown, but hardly a real indicator of WHM at 70.