PvP looks awesome

I'm reading the new patch note with all the new pvp skill
Omg it actually looks really fun.

I'm especially interested by the BLM who has received the craziest change imo. Very well done.

I've barely touched PvP during 2.0 and 3.0, but I think I'll queue for a PvP match right after logging in. I'm really excited :D

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/scholar/#pvp
Skill list for those who are curious

Glad you're excited. I hope a large amount of people feel the same way and really energise the pvp in this game. Most of the changes make absolute sense, and even the more controversial ones are probably going to be positives in practice.

I find it kinda funny how 30 sec sleep turn into 3 sec sleep in the end. Pvp have changed so much from wolves den times.

Let's try it first, shall we. Healers look much more buffed than dps and tanks and can't be interrupted anymore. If you'll not be able to kill anyone, it'll be far from fun.

well...
By looking at the potency, it will all come down to what regen healers will have.
As long as they'll have mana and they aren't bursted down by 4 player at once, yeah they shouldnt have too much trouble.
But I wonder for how long we'll be able to spam rank2 heals.
We'll be granted 10k mana, rank2 heal costing 1000mp, the blue bar will go down very quick


Now what will be our regen? Assuming we can effectively run oom (otherwise what's the point of mana cost?) and that rank2 heal has 4x the cost of rank1,

It will probably be 2% per 3sec as usual. so 200mp/3
if it's around 250mp / 3sec (would allow almost indefinite rank1 spam), then it would take roughly 30sec to make a healer run dry by forcing him to spam rank2.
I doubt we'll be granted more than 250mp/3sec.

I wouldn't worry too much. Even if your group won't be able to burst down someone, the healer will eventually run dry. DPS can't miss ressource as only some skill require TP/MP (the bursting one basically)


Interestingly, healer have very different strength and weakness

AST has no HoT but Synastry which can be up 100% of the time (nurfed to 25% for obvious reasons)
WHM is the only heal with a HoT, lilies proc and CDR% are buffed through the roof, also has the most instants heals.
SCH seems to be the most "on demand heal" and agressive healer with Broil new effects.

Only a few hours, can't wait

1000 potency Regen, 2500 potency Cure, 5000 potency Cure II.

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As for healing vs damage potency... healing typically has considerably higher potency and end numbers than damage in this game. I'd expect the baseline heal to have around 3k potency with the new potency system, cooldowns anywhere between 3k and 5k, Regen effects around 1000-1500 per tick. And it's scarcely far fetched to assume they'll have their cooldowns reduced a lot as well.

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I fucking called it >_>

On the bright side, it looks like healing CDs weren't reduced as much as damage CDs and the CDs aren't quite as numerous as I thought. We did get a massive hit to damage with crit being removed, though. Autoattacks got killed as well.

Gotta see how it pans out, but truth be told? I don't see anything dying until the healer goes OOM.

Did a few matches in Frontline and Feast and a lot better and more fun.

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Did a few matches in Frontline and Feast and a lot better and more fun.

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It was a lot faster, or seemed so anyway - lots of button mashing. GCD seems to be 1,5 seconds now (Or, was for MCH anyway), with heals seemingly having a 2,3 recast time - that helps a lot skewing the heal-DPS ratio more in DPS favor, though I haven't tried feast yet, just frontlines.

It didn't feel very strategical, or even tactical, mostly just fast and chaotic. But that might just be the first few days where everyone's a headless chicken.

Consider me preliminarily relieved.

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Interestingly, healer have very different strength and weakness

AST has no HoT but Synastry which can be up 100% of the time (nurfed to 25% for obvious reasons)
WHM is the only heal with a HoT, lilies proc and CDR% are buffed through the roof, also has the most instants heals.
SCH seems to be the most "on demand heal" and agressive healer with Broil new effects.

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AST is actually incredibly movile with Essential Dignity being on a 15s CD and Benefic making the next cast instant.
SCH is much more threatening on the offense with Broils TP+MP damage, and the Lustrates per minute are really good. Broil in particular is really intimidating to most people and it can really wear down on healers.
WHM is really well-rounded, having the only regen and AoE healing save for Adrenaline with Assize, and it also has the most mitigation with Divine and Protect. Plus, their offensive support with Stone III's Heavy is a great Assist tool, unlike AST's Malefic III.

I think they're all really fun, though. If the healer is skilled enough, you can survive for a LONG time as long as the party stays together, but the healing output is much lower than in the old PvP. I think the changes are pretty good in general.

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It was a lot faster, or seemed so anyway - lots of button mashing. GCD seems to be 1,5 seconds now (Or, was for MCH anyway), with heals seemingly having a 2,3 recast time - that helps a lot skewing the heal-DPS ratio more in DPS favor, though I haven't tried feast yet, just frontlines.

It didn't feel very strategical, or even tactical, mostly just fast and chaotic. But that might just be the first few days where everyone's a headless chicken.

Consider me preliminarily relieved.

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I will agree. A lot of chaos in Frontline and the Feast as we all get use to our jobs. Probably a good thing to just spam Frontline and Feast since the MSQ questline is a bit buggy and related areas are packed with people to lag people out.