Can we have Divine Seal back

150th WHM thread of the day, but a point kind of brushed over since the awful reality of the lilies came to light.

Why... was this taken from us? You've already given AST insane potencies, they can buff themselves, they have regens/ shields that insta-heal, ED, and now Minor Arcana thrown into the mix. SCH was already OP with fairy and shields, which is improving with SB.

There is no reason whatsoever this had to be made a cross role skill, apart from to spit on WHM after already kicking it in the crotch. It was a buff that suits us as pure power healers, it gave us a tiny edge, the other two don't need it, and all it's done is made WHM even more of a laughing stock than it already was.

0/10 decision, please reverse.

While we're at it, can we have Stoneskin back? Not this false one on a 60s cooldown because apparently a 3.5k shield was overpowered next to the others doing double that. I was certain the calls that SS and SSII were removed were wrong because there was absolutely no reason for it. The removal of WHM's only semblance of utility shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the problems facing WHM.

Ugh I should read threads all the way through

There's no reason NOT to have it be all class, sure other healers aren't as powerhouse but why not? WHM is pretty much dead in 4.0 unless the content somehow supports it entirely

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Originally Posted by gamermanh

It didn't go anywhere though, it's just called "Largesse" now and is an all-healer ability

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Originally Posted by gamermanh

It didn't go anywhere though, it's just called "Largesse" now and is an all-healer ability

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And it received a 10% nerf and oh, we also have to buy it back in order to have it, thus limiting our other options... those options being skills we also already had to begin with.

Problem is that Largesse is much weaker than Divine seal. It's 20% percent for seconds on a 90 cd while Divine Seal was 30% was 15 seconds on a 60 min CD. Divine Seal provided stronger heals and it had higher upkeep with the lower cd. You see that they tried to remedy this by giving cure 1 and cure 2 higher base potencies from 400 to 450 and 650 to 700. Again, it's somewhat negated by the fact that astro diurnal sect gives either a 10% or 15% healing buff. (Depends on which tooltip is right on either the english or japanese versions) so they're both even again. Granted astro loses the heal potency of synastry but they get back with Largesse and both sects give healing buffs (while dinural loses the speed buff). So overall, this is a nerf to the whm.

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Originally Posted by Maltothoris

Problem is that Largesse is much weaker than Divine seal. It's 20% percent for seconds on a 90 cd while Divine Seal was 30% was 15 seconds on a 60 min CD. Divine Seal provided stronger heals and it had higher upkeep with the lower cd. You see that they tried to remedy this by giving cure 1 and cure 2 higher base potencies from 400 to 450 and 650 to 700. Again, it's somewhat negated by the fact that astro diurnal sect gives either a 10% or 15% healing buff. (Depends on which tooltip is right on either the english or japanese versions) so they're both even again. Granted astro loses the heal potency of synastry but they get back with Largesse and both sects give healing buffs (while dinural loses the speed buff). So overall, this is a nerf to the whm.

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Diurnal is 10%, Nocturnal is 15% according to the Famitsu tooltips from Germany.

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201705/...4.html?page=12