Retrospective of typical bard plays in HW (WM and other abilities)

As controversial as Wanderer's Minuet was during Heavensward, most people I grouped up with used the casting time stance anyway.

However, there are 2 major problems that tend to occur despite using said stance to increase damage:

1. Many don't utilize the ocds, dots, aoes and the WM-exclusive abilities that would highly benefit from WM as much as they should.

The ocds that are not Empyreal don't have cast times, but still benefit from the attack power increase from WM. The dots can be refreshed with Iron Jaws. Aoes can highly benefit since auto-attacks that can't be used only hit one enemy anyway (and can also lighten the tp burden when used with WM.)

2.Some bards play no songs, especially Foe Requiem. This is especially the case when there are several casters and healers who supplement DPS in the party.

I can understand not using Mage's Ballad or Army's Paeon at they lower damage a bit. However, as Foe Requiemo doesn't decrease damage dealt, is it just strange that most bards don't use it, especially while others are seeing full MP on bards most of the time.

(Two of my characters have bard at 60 btw, just to get that disclaimer out of the way).

TBH a lot of bards just can't find the time to use their full set of OGCDs and don't know enough nabout the role to CC Feint.This leads to them overwhelming themselves in OGCDs while being unable to think of what to do with all them and while juggling them all trying to think of the next move they don't remember their utility moves like Foes.

Whenever I'm DPSing as healer I'm always sad when a DF Bard doesn't think to put up Foe's :(. I was once in a run like that, and I asked "could you play Foe's for me, please?~"

And the Bard did play Foe's! ...for that pull only, and never again in that dungeon :'D. I thought it too much effort to keep insisting so I stopped asking, lol.

That said, I have run into some Bards that play Foe's for every pull and then switch to Mage's Ballad in-between pulls for letting the healer restore some MP. Whenever I see any of these two, the BRD gets my instant commendation.

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Originally Posted by Fernosaur

Whenever I'm DPSing as healer I'm always sad when a DF Bard doesn't think to put up Foe's :(. I was once in a run like that, and I asked "could you play Foe's for me, please?~"

And the Bard did play Foe's! ...for that pull only, and never again in that dungeon :'D. I thought it too much effort to keep insisting so I stopped asking, lol.

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That's not just an FFXIV problem. It's like pulling teeth to get supports / medics to drop ammo / health crates in Battlefield. It's like, dude, I can maintain flares on my scout 24/7 and spot all the enemies in a sizable radius near us if you'd only hit left on the d-pad just one time. But nope, they don't want official "wall hacks" since they don't supply ammo. Then you have the medics that see you with 10 health as you hold the line against an enemy offensive and just run past you, don't drop health packs, and then get killed, contributing nothing to the team effort.

Hitting one button for teamwork = too much for most people. Unless it's affecting them personally, they don't bother. It's all too common in online games.

Can't wait to play with strafing headless-chicken derp bards again. RIP, WM/GB, your feet anchors will be missed by all.

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Originally Posted by Atmora

TBH a lot of bards just can't find the time to use their full set of OGCDs and don't know enough nabout the role to CC Feint.This leads to them overwhelming themselves in OGCDs while being unable to think of what to do with all them and while juggling them all trying to think of the next move they don't remember their utility moves like Foes.

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you're thinking too hard if you think they are overwhelmed. they generally just don't care and barely want to think about even maintaining straight shot. asleep at the wheel like plenty of other players of other jobs.

I am usually not a fan of extreme changes, (2.0 bard to bard mage to w/e we are going to get in SB :P) but the video gives me the impression that they mean to push the "bard" part of the job's identity. If they manage to deliver a playing experience where the songs are integral to the job, ill be all for it :P That being said, the video made it seem like the songs are your "stance" and your tool-set changes depending on the song, and if we continue to have bards that don't play songs they might just get even worse XD