Oooookay Serious Lichenweed Issue

So I just had a match where when it started.. 15secs into the match a SMN managed to get to our boxes and instantly destroy our offensive supplies. Meaning the other side had 2 DPS with power buffs. We stood no chance.

Now.. Based off of my video recording, it took 10 seconds(With Swiftsong!!) to simply get to the boxes. And swiftsong is just a tad slower than Sprint. So within that 15secs, a SMN could run and go destroy our box. In only 12secs he was able to attack it!! Honestly I didn't touch the crates because I thought the WAR was going to stack off them but he didn't, so within that 2 secs it was it was already at 50% HP by SMN.

What if there's a MNK? What if we want to.. I dunno, have 10secs prep for buffs before running in? Seems like a massive oversight IMO. They shouldn't even be that close that quick.

I can foresee it now.. A new trend starting where range DPS just one-shots the box like the match I had. <.<

Really needs to be fixed.

I mean just get your ranged dps to do the same? Either that or just kill your boxes faster, I mean you're closer to your own so you should be able to get to it in like 5s. It's not like you should expect the opponent to wait around for your team to get stacks.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

I mean just get your ranged dps to do the same? Either that or just kill your boxes faster, I mean you're closer to your own so you should be able to get to it in like 5s. It's not like you should expect the opponent to wait around for your team to get stacks.

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It takes 10secs to get there. Most likely 9 with Sprint. I'll get the video up when I can but I honestly don't find that idea fun.

"Who can get to the enemies boxes first >:0". In the original Feast map there's no way you can even get close to the other side. In Lichenweed, you can get there in 12secs. I feel pretty certain that it's an exploit. There's alot of things bad with Lichenweed but that's pretty bad.

It's not an exploit. I believe in an effort to encourage competition over buffs (less at the start and more during the match, the Lichenweed map connects along the "back" route behind the large tree. If someone's fast enough and bypasses their own, they can attack the enemy team's boxes and prevent them from being able to grab their buff. But in doing so, they are effectively throwing themselves at the enemy team early on. Simply put, if you see them coming, CC or KO them and then take your buffs.

I also think there's a bit of local meta mentality at work. Perhaps non-US players are less likely to attempt to sabotage the other team, and the map design permitting buff stealing was an oversight? For obvious reasons, I can't say this with certainty, but after watching some of the matches at Fan Fest, I noticed things play out VERY differently in other regions.

IMHO it's the worst map in FFXIV PVP, it's just not fun to play, at all.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

It's not an exploit. I believe in an effort to encourage competition over buffs (less at the start and more during the match, the Lichenweed map connects along the "back" route behind the large tree. I

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This back route is blocked on 4x4 Feast maps, much in the same way as the old arena areas are under water (so you can't knock people off the bridge)

I don't understand why the offensive boxes are so far away on that curve area, it should of been closer to the base so they could of enlarged the middle area a tad bit.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

I don't understand why the offensive boxes are so far away on that curve area, it should of been closer to the base so they could of enlarged the middle area a tad bit.

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Honestly, I think what should happen is that they change the it so the boxes spawn in the area players spawn in at match start.

I've seen this happen once.
I took it as fair game since we didn't CC them. I've learned my lesson. As tank (except WAR) I don't touch the boxes I go straight scouting who is taking what on the opponents side. If I see someone barrelling in, I will be ready!

I saw a situation where both sets of boxes were getting mashed as soon as we got there (sprinting). The opposition then pushed us back onto our spawn point & CC/ranged AoE obliterated us, picking us off as we respawned. It was so much fun.... for them. XD