A system revamp can not change Tanks or Healers so why do people keeping sayin it

I don't think its really possible to change what a tank or healer does in this game with a revamp to battle system. You cant change Argo generator, if you changed how flash , unleashed, or overpower was used it would change every single instanced in the game completely this would never happen.

You cant change defensive cool downs unless you just made them traits otherwise it would make things even less engaging form those whom say that tanking isnt engaging. Cant change combos the only thing you could do is maybe make it less buttons to press but they still would be at the core of tanking. Nor can you get rid of abilities like shield lob, unmend. There is no way to change any of these things other than changing the way tanking has been done sense the beginning of the game.

They would have to change every ability to mean something different which I dont think most tanks wont but could be wrong. The same goes for healers, you have to have aoe heals, you have to have big heals, regen heals etc. So why are people setting themselves up for disappointment, there is no way to redesign how a tank or healer works in this game witout changing how the game has worked so far. And I dont even want tank to be any different than it is now maybe thats just me , but I enjoy tankin how it is. I dont believe I saw to many people complaining about how tanking or healing was done in this game more so just a specific tank and a specific healer. So I sure hope that they dont change the way its done just to add some damage to pali , and some utility to whm.

Jeez stop. 4.0 hasn't arrived yet and stop crying.
I trust se so they might do something COOL.

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Originally Posted by Johaandr

Jeez stop. 4.0 hasn't arrived yet and stop crying.
I trust se so they might do something COOL.

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Im not crying it just basic logic, Im not even mad, but I see a lot of post on here going on about will see what the new revamp will do to the tanks. And the way the game is designed it really cant do very much at all. If you dont think tankin or healing is cool then some just may never think that it is because more so than dps healers and tanks have to be very similar ha screwed that up ha. At most aesthetics is the mane thing that they can change and thats about it. And again I dont think that those whom tank or heal actually want the way things are tanked or healed to change completely if it does then it may be more angry people than happy ones.

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Originally Posted by Johaandr

Jeez stop. 4.0 hasn't arrived yet and stop crying.
I trust se so they might do something COOL.

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nope

Yoshida: We’re not going to be rebuilding it from the ground up. We’re concentrating on two things with this revamp. During 3.x, the action rotation for high DPS became very complex. We saw a large gap form regarding DPS from skilled and technical players and more casual players and so we wanted to bring up the bottom. The second thing is that with FFXIV, lots of players use the controller, with the increase in actions, its hard for them to use all of the actions available. There aren’t enough ways to use these actions so we’re cutting the number of unused actions and combining similar actions to make the lvl 70 action number about the same as it is now.
Currently with a lot of the jobs, it’s clear that jobs have to monitor a lot of buff icons. We want to create job specific UIs to alleviate that and make monitoring those things easier. We’re going to balance, adjust, tweak and refine this UI right up to the release, so we probably can’t show you anything until May.
http://gamerescape.com/2017/02/18/fr...ss-conference/

Like 3.0 bard?

SaitoHajime the fanboys don't care.
What ever se will do they say its a gods blessing.

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Originally Posted by SaitoHajime

nope

Yoshida: We’re not going to be rebuilding it from the ground up. We’re concentrating on

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That sounds like something Id expect less buttons like maybe cutting combos or something from three abilities down to two , or something. But judging from that its exactly what Im saying that the core of what a tank or a healer is will not change. Even with balance if someone finds tanking boring they will still find it boring, which just makes me wonder why again people think that something major could come to a tank or healer to make it more appealing.

Let's wait and see what they intend to do instead of jumping the gun at this juncture. There's potential to shake up quite a bit between tweaks to the current combat and the addition of skills (and possible traits) when we get to level 70.

I am intrigued by what they intend to do with 4.0, though I'm also concerned given we haven't heard much concrete information on exactly what's changing. I'm holding onto any opinion until I get to see what exactly they have in mind for 4.0.

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Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX

SaitoHajime the fanboys don't care.
What ever se will do they say its a gods blessing.

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they expect all the wrongs things for a guy that wants to play it safe and not take risks when it comes to this game.

And how iys good?
Its not hard now why make it even more so.
They did say we will have the same amount of skills.