Purposely DCing should be reportable

Ok, I can understand people dcing because of poor connection issues, or the server is just flat out being a butt (Like they have been these past few months.) But when a person blatantly says in chat that they're disconnecting just to avoid the penalty, I feel that's abuse of the system. I mean, sure we may not like the dungeon we were rolled, but to purposely disconnect in the middle of a mob because of that? Come on...

Now I did ask around in game to see if it actually was reportable, but apparently the admins turn a blind eye to it. If that isn't the case, and actually -is- reportable, then please disregard this thread.

In cases where they say in chat that's what they are doing I would say go ahead and send a report in. Just don't expect results. Or to hear about them at least. As far as people disconnecting in general , without explicit proof in chat, they won't ever take action against it. This is to protect the people who legitimately dc and frankly, I think it should remain this way.

There was one time in the Sunken Temple of Quarn where the final boss door did not open for me, but was open for the other 3. I had to DC and relog, to fix the problem. So I personally think that allowing this for such occasions is better than the alternative. (After coming back we did beat the boss ez as pie :D)

I know it's frustrating when it happens (especially mid to late through a dungeon), but I don't think it should be punishable. Mainly because of the monthly subscription not only for XIV, but PSN as well. SE is not going to moderate something like that harshly, because that would ultimately effect their cash flow. You already get penalized for a disconnect (30 minute restriction on Duty Finder I believe)?

Most everyone has had a disconnect issue in some form or the other. There have also been times that people purposely disconnect for whatever reason (IE not happy with current party, time constraint, etc). There are a plethora of reasons why someone may do so. But punishable on a more "extreme" scale? That's a bit unnecessary, in my opinion at least.

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Originally Posted by Blonde_Huntress

I know it's frustrating when it happens (especially mid to late through a dungeon), but I don't think it should be punishable. Mainly because of the monthly subscription not only for XIV, but PSN as well. SE is not going to moderate something like that harshly, because that would ultimately effect their cash flow. You already get penalized for a disconnect (30 minute restriction on Duty Finder I believe)?

Most everyone has had a disconnect issue in some form or the other. There have also been times that people purposely disconnect for whatever reason (IE not happy with current party, time constraint, etc). There are a plethora of reasons why someone may do so. But punishable on a more "extreme" scale? That's a bit unnecessary, in my opinion at least.

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Actually PlayStation Plus isn't required to play FFXIV :)

If you don't kick them after they DC, they should be right back in the dungeon when they reconnect (unless they changed that). They just hope you will so they will avoid the penalty.

So it's like with purposely AFK people, you either can't afford the time and kick them, or you don't preventing them to cheat the penalty and they end up wasting their own time as well and not just yours. ¨

Personally I don't like to let them go easy because it encourages their bad habit :p
Unless they're DPS, because having to queue again as DPS is penalty in itself, but because of that it's rarely DPS who want to be kicked. Also they're usually easy to replace.

I will admit to doing that in Palace of the dead. Joining a 4dps or 4 healer party is just mind numbing. Another strat for 4 dps is to wipe it right off the bat to get another group (if they all agree to it, of course)

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Originally Posted by Blonde_Huntress

I know it's frustrating when it happens (especially mid to late through a dungeon), but I don't think it should be punishable. Mainly because of the monthly subscription not only for XIV, but PSN as well. SE is not going to moderate something like that harshly, because that would ultimately effect their cash flow. You already get penalized for a disconnect (30 minute restriction on Duty Finder I believe)?

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Actually you only get hit with a DF penalty if you voluntarily leave. If you're vote kicked you can queue right back up with no penalty, something people have already requested having a penalty added to. It happened to me once in Amdapor a while back, I DC'd before the first boss and they immediately vote kicked me. Once I got back in I queued back up and it dropped me in the same party. It definitely made the rest of the dungeon awkward.

It's impossible to know if a person disconnected on purpose or it's an accident, unless they confirm it themselves. If they did, you can report them. (as someone mentioned above)
Otherwise, don't waste your time. It sucks, it happens a lot, but there's nothing we can do about it atm and in near future.


Forcing a leaver penalty on someone kicked is not an option, since i saw a lof of unfair kicks and as i was solo (tank), 1 vote is enough to kick someone from your party and i can't even prevent that. Before that, i would like that they change awful kick system first, i.e. 1 person initiates + 1 his friend vote "yes" = 100% kick, this is awful beyond imagination. The vote kick system in FFXIV is really bad and unfair. 2 people should not be able to 100% kick ANYONE they want at ANYTIME (assuming that enough time passed for vote kick initiation).

On one hand I do agree that some form of penalty should happen if you're kick from a party because of those that do purposely dc. On the other hand placing a penalty on a person that is kicked from a party is unfair, I've seen my share of people being kicked because they dc'd. I used to have bad net and have gotten kicked from a party for dc'ing once, I've also been kicked from raids because I didn't know the mechanics for it because it was my first time doing it.