I often see many threads about Viera. So many that it can be annoying sometimes.. They always get shot down in the end or a debate forms that holds the thread for 20+ pages. So it's a sensitive topic..
The ones who disagree always say things along the lines of: "We don't need another Hyur with animal parts", " We don't need another cute race", "(something that involves weebs and/or furries)".
Suggestions end up as: "I want a full body bestial race.", "Bangaa"(what are Bangaa btw? xD), "A dwarf race", "A serious, rough looking race" "Something that looks deadly"
Now let's think about this.. And why all of those choices all probably bad and why Yoshida probably won't do it.
We have our rough races in this game.. the non-cute ones. Roegadyn, Highlander, and maybe even Elezen. And they are also the least played races in the entire game(except male Highlanders. They seem to be frequent). Those are the races that aren't played because they are "ugly" or "too rough".
Miqo'te, Midlander, and Au Ra are so successful as races simply BECAUSE they are cute. Which is obviously what people love. Make a "Favorite Race" poll and I'll bet... a trillion dollars Miqo'te will win! Why? Cute = Best. And don't come in here with "Guys dressing up catgirls" because it's just false stuff. Keep it out please. Women like cute too. And I happen to play Miqo'te.
Anyway, you have all the polls asking "What should the next race be!?". If Viera is on it, it wins. Every time. It just does.
Now think of it from a Yoshi point of view..
Member: Hey boss what should we make as a race?
Yoshi: Okay let's see here.. I *could* make a bestial-type race.. One that isn't cute.. But we have Roegadyn which did terrible as a race while Miqo'te and Au Ra are thriving! It was a very good decision to make them cute! They are very successful as a race because of it. Statistics show.
Member: There's a poll of what people want as a race. Viera is winning by 40% but the thread is filled with people saying don't bring it O.o
Yoshi: Ignore them. They are the minority. Look at the numbers, it's obvious what FFXIV as a whole, wants. We need to appeal to the majority for maximum profit instead of catering to the minority on the forums..
I think it's seen that way and in a way it does make sense though. Why make an "ugly" race when the predecessors did so bad? From a business perspective.. A new race like that are Flavor of The Month then die. While Au Ra still thrive. You can say they are a bad/failed/lazy race but no matter what, they are a soaring success.
That said, I don't even care about Viera :p
Does FFXIV *Really* Want A New Non-Viera Race?
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09-22-2016, 01:50 PMMagic-MalDoes FFXIV *Really* Want A New Non-Viera Race?
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09-22-2016, 01:53 PMJynxall of your questions have been answered several times in the larger threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic-Mal
It comes down to developers will probably not vie from the human form for resource purposes. personally I'd prefer more customization within existing races before we see new ones. -
09-22-2016, 02:27 PMAmetrine
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bangaa
This is a Bangaa. They are a race of lizard-like people who premiered alongside Viera in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, and have subsequently been in every game that also have Viera.
The whole "Viangaa" thing spawned from an April Fool's joke of the devs mashing them together and making the hybrid that resulted a race for us. -
09-22-2016, 02:28 PMRennies
They'll pick whatever sells the most fantasias.
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09-22-2016, 02:36 PMMicahZerrshia
The only good Viera would do in the game is provide some rabbit stew to chow down on while you sacrifice your lala.
But seriously.
Personally I don't need/want oversexualized bunnies. Not a furry nor do I care for the furry thing. It's kindda creepy tbh. If if you sexualize a anthropomorphic animal it falls into the realm of furrydom no matter how you wanna argue it doesn't. I also feel that way about cat ladies too tho. Gotta wonder about someone who gets randy to a kitty cat. Not all ppl who play kitties do, but you know there are ppl sitting there looking up cat skirts and do.....things.
If they wanna be cute, they can be without getting creepy sexual about it. Freya from IX comes to mind. -
09-22-2016, 02:47 PMNestamaViera are far from being considered as furry (Beastmen, Ronso, Bangaa, etc are pretty much that). They're 90% humanoid, 3% rabbit (ears) and 7% weird (mostly their feet) that will be replaced with human limbs in XIV should they be added.Quote:
Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia
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09-22-2016, 02:54 PMMicahZerrshiaLike I said, same with cat ladies. But when you anthropomorphize animals and put them in tiny skirts with big boobs and tiny little mid drifts it still falls into the furry realm. it may not to some furries who like more animalistic but you still got an oversexualized animal and that's still a furry. Human body + rabbit ears + feet + tail + sexualized = furry (to those who like to stay within our own species anyway lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
Is it so wrong to say, its ok to be cute or have human-animal hybrids, just don't make it creepily oversexualized? -
09-22-2016, 03:09 PMChessala
I didn't like Viera in FFXII and I wouldn't like them in FFXIV either. They would end up as a huge race that looks sluggish like Elezen anyway (because that is how they are). I don't care much which race they implement but I would prefer a small race similar to the Elin in Tera. I don't like Lalas because I don't need to be a potato with legs but Elins are cute AND furry...best of both worlds.
I did come to like Au Ra though. I wouldn't switch my main's race ever but I am very happy with my Au Ra alt. -
09-22-2016, 03:27 PMMagic-MalI see... Yep. Definitely a race no one would play :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ametrine
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09-22-2016, 03:31 PMNestamaThat's still not a furry, though (and anything can be sexualised in this game. Elezen, Roegadyn, Hyur). Miqo'te and Viera are pretty much 'Playboy' races, which should answer your question on how people can get 'randy' to a 'nekomimi/usagimimi.'Quote:
Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia