Should I Kick before being Kicked?

If being kicked is going to be such a certainty when voicing my view point, than shouldn't I incite a kick first?

The only other option I found reliable (but very isolative) to circumvent being kicked is to avoid speaking in chat. Of course, this can cause problems not just from a social standpoint but also from a practical one. It can be challenging to coordinate when not speaking or to defend myself when it looks like I will be kicked, despite not saying a word within missions.

Note: To me, Free Companies are like random groups. One or two strong misinterpretations from what I say and I'm out.

So, the more informed question is: Do you believe in inciting a vote to kick (or leave a company before being kicked) to try to preserve your spot and "time" in missions?

Thank you

Side Note: In my experience in MMO's, you are considered the antagoniser if you don't yield to a players way (for better or worse).

P.S. I'm semi-new and I Tank.

With an attitude like yours should you even be playing ?

Take note of my attempts at keeping the thread civil and comments that are less than friendly.

Take the kick, you're a tank and you will get in again with a fresh party in a few seconds. This is what I do, when I get healers that refuse to heal and DPS with fairies doing their role causing stress amongst everyone.

I tell them to either switch to healer stance and prevent the DPS from dying every boss fight or I will just stand still until they either boot me, or someone leaves so I can also leave both without penalty.

Tanks ftw

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Originally Posted by Maxipep

With an attitude like yours should you even be playing ?

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It's not just an attitude it's how events played out for me. Players just do some form of what I have said instead of talking about it. Reading and witnessing it can give very different perspectives.

Hopefully, your comment is not the dominate one because it may mean that too many players are too desensitized to the issue I posted. "Getting kicked is not a big deal". I am looking for ways to help my issue, not ignore it.

I know Warrior is built to do just about everything other than heal others but I didn't believe that it would be "abused".

I was in the Sunken Temple of Qarn. I told a player that they were waiting too long to Heal. They DC'd without my notice so that was on me.

Later I argued that the DPS were not focusing on the bees. I was told it's my responsibility to take care of them. I new that it was as far as gaining their attention and doing what I could take them down. However, it seemed as if they viewed me being responsible for all the mechanics in the room while they were free to hit whatever they wanted without responsibility.

I was taken out often in that part of the mission but I salvaged it by being raised and taking down boss before the party wiped. I was kicked soon after.

I can see your way working for XP gathering or Guildhests but a lot of time can be spent if the goal is to actually complete a level.

I've certainly had my share of arguments and drama through refusing, to use your own words, to "yield to other players" (usually over abuse towards others or lazy/ bad playing, etc.) but I don't usually get kicks for it.

If it's that common a problem for you, it might be best to re-evaluate your attitude and how you come across to others. Though it sounds like you're more paranoid about the possibility of being kicked rather than actually getting a lot of them?

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

I've certainly had my share of arguments and drama through refusing, to use your own words, to "yield to other players" (usually over abuse towards others or lazy/ bad playing, etc.) but I don't usually get kicks for it.

If it's that common a problem for you, it might be best to re-evaluate your attitude and how you come across to others. Though it sounds like you're more paranoid about the possibility of being kicked rather than actually getting a lot of them?

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If there was a likeliness that players would be "lenient", what you said may be doable. However and in my experience, they're not.

Bottom Line: I don't believe groups are consistently fair enough for me to talk it out with them. That's why I am gathering information on what I can do myself. Being mute won't serve me well for too long. Especially as an "inexperienced" Tank.

If you're getting kicked that much, imho, you should change the way you see things. For me, not talking/comunicating will be one factor to kick, not the other way round. I like to play with people, not bots/NPCs. Kick before you get kicked isn't the correct approach either as I see it. It's more "what is wrong with me or what can I change on how I play to not get kicked so much?" Also it's not like you're the tank so let them kick, tank ftw. That's a primadonna attitude which will get you kicked even more.
If you're unsure about a duty/dungeon, say it. Don't remain silent and just carry on. Be polite, helpful, and even though it might seem to much to ask of the internet, be trusting. People don't just kick for the sake of kicking nor is there a hidden achievement for amount of kicks done. If you're getting kicked so much, then there is something about how you play, attitude, how you come across, or all of it together.

ヾ( ･`⌓´･)ﾉﾞ The only sensible way to deal with this is to be an assshole. You are a tank so you will always get complaints. Don't yield if you know your place and what to do in mechanic wise then dont worry about others. if they dont know just leave and find others that do know, easy for you cause yer a tank. tanks always wanted




Ps. Please ban me already guysssssssssssssssssssssssssssss