anyone thinks the seals gained from turning in HW dungeon drops be nerfed?

right now it gives way too much and makes the "adventurer in need" reward nearly obsolete when you can roll in an HW dungeon as any class and make more seals than you ever could as an "adventurer in need"

there will always be people that will roll need on drops they don't need just for the seals taking it away from players that really need it for either glamour or even stats

this is going to be pretty problematic if the devs ever do increase inventory space without fixing this because that would enable company seal hoarders to hoard even more

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Originally Posted by Neihel

right now it gives way too much and makes the "adventurer in need" reward nearly obsolete when you can roll in an HW dungeon as any class and make more seals than you ever could as an "adventurer in need"

there will always be people that will roll need on drops they don't need just for the seals taking it away from players that really need it for either glamour or even stats

this is going to be pretty problematic if the devs ever do increase inventory space without fixing this because that would enable company seal hoarders to hoard even more

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I brought this up with my static not to long ago and was told that there wasn't anything wrong with people rolling need on gear for seals because they still need it. Just in a different way from you.

I was told, if you need gear, farm Midas. If you want glamour, queue the dungeon as that class. Otherwise, all is fair game.

You can't justify that needing gear for glamour is more entitled than someone needing it for seals.

Nothing wrong with rolling need on gear you will turn in for seals. Your need for the gear to wear is not greater than the need of the other player has to turn in for seals to purchase items they need for their character.

Everyone has the same chance to win the need roll.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

Nothing wrong with rolling need on gear you will turn in for seals. Your need for the gear to wear is not greater than the need of the other player has to turn in for seals to purchase items they need for their character.

Everyone has the same chance to win the need roll.

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If the intent of either party is to turn in the gear, then sure. But if someone needs for seals over the person that actually needs the gear to have a higher ilvl and better stats, it really does feel like a dick move.

"Oh finally, I'll now have the ilvl to nevermind!"

Seals will always be something a player may be in need of. But there are plenty of methods to obtain them, some even quicker than dungeoning.

No thanks, why should I be punished for wanting to get seals for materials or armour or anything that I want to buy from my grand company, if you want glamour then you better work for it like the rest of us.

Most of us are in a dungeon for a reason either it be tomes or leveling, if I'm able to get some items to trade in I will go for it unless someone asks that they can have that piece of gear.

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Originally Posted by FreakinZMartin

No thanks, why should I be punished for wanting to get seals for materials or armour or anything that I want to buy from my grand company, if you want glamour then you better work for it like the rest of us.

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But that's why the person would be in the dungeon..... to work for it.

I get the logic you were aiming for, but you kind of kicked yourself with that post.

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Originally Posted by CheshirePuss

If the intent of either party is to turn in the gear, then sure. But if someone needs for seals over the person that actually needs the gear to have a higher ilvl and better stats, it really does feel like a dick move.

"Oh finally, I'll now have the ilvl to nevermind!"

Seals will always be something a player may be in need of. But there are plenty of methods to obtain them, some even quicker than dungeoning.

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And you can also counter argue that by saying there's other ways to boost your item level. This can be easily done by crafted gear on the market board.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

You can't justify that needing gear for glamour is more entitled than someone needing it for seals.

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In the same vein, then, you can't justify that needing gear for your main class is more entitled than someone needing it for an alt-class.

As such, the role/class restrictions on loot should really be abolished.

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Originally Posted by CheshirePuss

But that's why the person would be in the dungeon..... to work for it.

I get the logic you were aiming for, but you kind of kicked yourself with that post.

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If they say that they need the item then I will pass on it but I will greed/need anything.

You just need to ask most people will pass the item for you.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

In the same vein, then, you can't justify that needing gear for your main class is more entitled than someone needing it for an alt-class.

As such, the role/class restrictions on loot should really be abolished.

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Your right. You can't justify that either because both players need it.

But you can justify that if they wanted that piece of gear, they should've queued as that job to roll against you.