So last patch you nerfed exploratory voyage yields, then this patch you fill the loot table with garbage. Well done. /end sarcasm What's the point in toiling over creation and management of airships when SE are just gonna bend you over and slip you something you don't really want.
There's a term in english for those who deliberately waste other ppl's time. It begins w a 'w' and ends in 'r'
Why keep wasting our time, SE?
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06-18-2016, 08:14 PMEldrakkynWhy keep wasting our time, SE?
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06-18-2016, 09:42 PMRufalus
I'd be happy with airship voyages not collecting amazing exclusive loot since it's unfair to people who either don't have an FC with a workshop or they are in a large FC where only a privileged few people at the top get the items and decide where to send the ships. Since FC housing is a limited resource and not every player can have their own airship, I'd prefer them to keep making items available through other methods like beast tribes where all players have equal access.
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06-18-2016, 09:56 PMIgnnis
In response to the above post why don't they keep the airship tables the same and just add the same items from voyages into beast tribe rewards etc. Everyone has access, not those privileged few.
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06-19-2016, 03:20 AMSnugglebutt
FC airship crafting is a huge investment not just to buy the house but also crafting the components to make the ships parts. It takes a long time to level one, to farm the materials to craft each part and the voyages take a long time before come back. If put everything from FC airship voyages in beastman tribes then why would anyone bother with FC airships anymore at all? Especially since can already access diadem without being part of an FC with an airship. FC airship voyages need to have highly valuable and worthwhile rewards to compensate for the time and cost, adding crap like birch branches was kind of dumb in my opinion. They are worth like 15gil on MB and rarely useful for GC hand ins...no one is going to send out their airship just to gain some birch branches which will take a day or few days in the real world before the ship gets back with them as opposed to anyone with a botanist or botanist retainer even which can farm large amounts of them in less than an hour if so allergic to spending 15gil each on MB.
Don't get me wrong, I get why the person two posts above me said what said since when I never had one myself and hadn't had to spend millions upon millions to get the house then more millions to get my first airship up and running...I also hated not being able to gather everything or gain everything in this game aka crafting ingredients that could only get from airships. But I could always buy them on MB so it is not like being the case of only those with airships can have most of that stuff anyways, it's just those with airships can farm them after making a huge investment in the feature while those without can obtain them from he market board. There has to be a good enough return on such a huge time sink and vast gil costing feature for those that do it. Personally I still would like personal houses to get 1 airship for exploratory voyages too while FC's get 4 but it would mean changing the lore and also SE would still need to fix the biggest issue which is lack of plots in this game. -
06-19-2016, 03:56 AMDPZ2There might be a term in the vernacular spoken in your community that you didn't want to write down, but 'time-waster' starts with a 't', not a 'w'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldrakkyn
As far as "toiling" over airship management, if you've been doing it since 3.0/3.1 you've been amply rewarded, either with crafting materials, or gil from the sale of those materials (to the tune of 30-50 million gil) ... is that what you're really complaining about?
Our FC had our ships maxed out last year, but none have sailed since December, when our last Master Craftsman decided to follow a friend to another MMO, but I know the gil numbers are correct. -
06-19-2016, 09:15 AMCulfinrandir
Given that the mats exclusively available from voyages are now being used in everyday gear, like the Ironworks Gathering & Crafting stuff, means that you're being amply rewarded for having airships. Don't get me started on the ability to use airship only stuff to level up the Anima Relic!
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06-24-2016, 08:48 AMServerCollapsironworks gear does not require voyage mats, only eso stuff and glass fibersQuote:
Originally Posted by Culfinrandir
I dont think, that voyages offer anything which might actually be game breaking or even important for anyone
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06-25-2016, 05:34 PMFinaSelAs far as I know, Raw Celestine is only available from airship voyages. This is used to make the new crafting / gathering gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by ServerCollaps