New relic anima weapon

Hello everyone, I'm a returning player just wanted some clarity. The Hauteclaire is a item level 200 weapon, but the animated version is item level 170? so when upgrading it from antiquated to animated it loses strength and item level but gains it back when its awoken? am I understanding this right? thanks for all your help and support guys when you comment

The Antiquated and Animated weapons are rather different.

Antiquated weapons are obtained by trading in tomestones and are just that - antiquated relics. You can power them up to i210 with Illuminati Gobdip, obtained by winning one in A4S or by trading a Mhachi Farthing for it.

Animated weapons are "ensouled" weapons; that is, they have pseudo-souls installed in them like golems. They share models with the Antiquateds, but are created by using an Astral Nodule and Umbral Nodule. The exact creation process is unknown, but they merely look identical. Once you get to the Awoken state, they take on a glow effect, and past that have a unique weapon model (Anima Weapon).

Essentially, they're not the same weapon, even though they look identical.

Yeah the weapon is basically just a 'body' Gerolt builds to house the soul. After that the power comes from the soul becoming conscious. Later they need to change the 'body' of the weapon (which is why we get a new model) because the original shape cant handle the growing power of the soul.

I'm still unclear what's the difference between your previous Zeta relic and this

I'm guessing our Zeta relic wasn't self aware because it was raised as a soul sucking murder tool where as this one is treated more like a person?

Gerolt used an old reject from Rowena's warehouse as the base, and maybe broke something (or two somethings) while powering it up with the nodules. S[kupo!] happens. He was drunk, and it wasn't on the good stuff.

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Originally Posted by Kotori_Southburd

I'm still unclear what's the difference between your previous Zeta relic and this

I'm guessing our Zeta relic wasn't self aware because it was raised as a soul sucking murder tool where as this one is treated more like a person?

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The soul-sucking murder tool isn't the whole story...

As explained in the Zodiac Zeta quest, the drawback with the Zeta is that it's attuned specifically to you. That is to say, only you can use it on the level that makes it legendary. To anyone else it's just another weapon, but because your soul is so attuned to it, it's like an extension of yourself. Another extremity, so to speak. (Just one for cutting people and cutting people ONLY.)

The Anima weapons are supposed to have this flaw removed. As opposed to being an extension of the attuned wielder's will, they are designed to possess true sentience and be suitable for market. (Whether or not this actually comes to pass...)

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Originally Posted by Kotori_Southburd

I'm still unclear what's the difference between your previous Zeta relic and this

I'm guessing our Zeta relic wasn't self aware because it was raised as a soul sucking murder tool where as this one is treated more like a person?

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To add on to what Cilia said, there's another key difference between the Zeta weapon and the Anima relic, and that's the one of sentience versus sapience.

If I recall correctly, the Zodiac weapon was sentient, which means it had the capacity "to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively".

The Anima relic, on the other hand, is sapient. It's potentially capable of independent thought, and applying knowledge to its actions.

Unlike the Zodiac relic, the Anima weapon is literally just the body of a living entity, albeit artificially created.

In the case of my character, Lyland, I've even gone the extra step of "naming" the Anima soul. Because, hey, it's literally the ghost in the shell. It deserves an identity of its own. :p

The anima weapons are strongly similar to these.

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Zanpakut%C5%8D

^ Actually, I think the zanpakutō are more similar to the Zodiac weapons, because they are sentient (to be sure, I now recall that the more advanced versions of zanpukuto also had distinct souls; so, my apologies, you're not that far off-target).

In my opinion, a better anime analogy for the Anima weapons would be the demon weapons of Soul Eater. The weapons in that manga/anime series were literally characters in their own right, each of them paired with a particular user. For example, the lead character Maka Albarn is paired with her scythe, Soul Evans.

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Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

^ Actually, I think the zanpakutō are more similar to the Zodiac weapons, because they are sentient (to be sure, I now recall that the more advanced versions of zanpukuto also had distinct souls; so, my apologies, you're not that far off-target).

In my opinion, a better anime analogy for the Anima weapons would be the demon weapons of Soul Eater. The weapons in that manga/anime series were literally characters in their own right, each of them paired with a particular user. For example, the lead character Maka Albarn is paired with her scythe, Black Star.

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Maka is actually paired with Soul Eater Evans. Besides that, mostly right.