One Video Card to Rule Them All!!

Details:
Trying to play FFXIV and FFXI on the Same PC Setup. Is anyone doing this atm? If so what is your card and driver?

Steps Taken:
I have played with my ATI drivers a little recently in an attempt to get FFXIV working better. Seems I will have to go back a few drivers if i want to play FFXI again on my best rig, making FFXIV run poor again, so I wont.
I've now been play on my other PC that also rips the system requirements of this game to shame runs on nVidia but still seems to have in game framrate issues of it's own.

Date and Time:
Oct. 25, 2011 - Oct. 29, 2011

Platform:
3 PCs

PC Manufacturer & Model Number:
Alienware AREA51 (i7)
Alienware M11x R1 (Core 2 Duo)
Dell Studio XPS16 (i7)

OS:
All PCs running Windows 7 64-bit

Graphics Cards:
2 Radeon HD 6970 in CrossfireX
nVidia 335m
ATI 4650
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My Thoughts On This:

T Just want my PC to play both :(

SE needs to realize that the people that want to play FFXIV are mostly FFXI players!!! We need a compatible driver for the new graphics cards we are buying for both ATI and nVidia. I play on both cards and both run just OK or not at all.
All 3 of my PCs run countless new games at sic FPS, this includes other new and old MMOs and the new BF3 ALL ON All MAX settings.
Fix these games, don't just tell us after 1000+ days logged on our FFXI play clocks that the cards and new PCs that many of your best fans have recently forked out A TON of money for just to play Square-Enix's new XIV (you know, the game that needs all the players it can get atm, isn't running without screen tear in fullscreen Crossfire & I have to start paying to play next month even though) isn't approved for XI. Especially if I have been playing on this card for over 8 months and never had these probs until now.
XI is imo the best mmo ever and needs to shine on new hardware. XIV is shaping up great and is going to have a bright future but please.... Get them running on new hardware or new content is just a waste of your time. The game may be 8 years old but the content is new and the players are sticking around showing support and interest and continuing to play. We shouldn't need 2 PCs to enjoy both of SEs MMORPGs! One overpriced tower that plays everthing else under the sun shoud do just fine!!!!!!

I will be posting this in both the XIV and XI forums in hopes that the development teams of both games hear the crys of this long time SE MMO gamer!

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Originally Posted by Neekzz

One Video Card to Rule Them All!!
I have also posted this in the XI forum since i think it has to do with both games.

I have played with my ATI drivers a little recently in an attempt to get FFXIV working better. Seems I will have to go back a few drivers if i want to play FFXI again on my best rig, making FFXIV suck again, so I wont. I'll play on my other PC that also rips the system requirements of this game to shame runs on nVidia but still seems to have in game framrate issues of it's own.

SE needs to realize that the people that want to play FFXIV are all FFXI players!!! We need a compatible driver for the new graphics cards we are buying for both ATI and nVidia. I play on both cards and both run just OK or not at all.
All 3 of my PCs run countless new games at sic FPS, this includes other new and old MMOs and the new BF3 ALL ON All MAX settings.

Fix these games, don't just tell us after 1000+ days logged on our FFXI play clocks that the cards and new PCs that many of your best fans have recently forked out A TON of money for just to play Square-Enix's new XIV (you know, the game that needs all the players it can get atm, isn't running without screen tear in fullscreen Crossfire & I have to start paying to play next month even though) isn't approved for XI. Especially if I have been playing on this card for over 8 months and never had these probs until now.

Get them running on new hardware or new content is just a waste of your time. The game may be 8 years old but the content is new and the players are sticking around showing support and interest and continuing to play. We shouldn't need 2 PCs to enjoy both of SEs MMORPGs! One $4,000 tower that pays everthing else under the sun shoud do just fine!!

Thanks for giving us a place like this to be heard. Keep up the great work, dont get me wqrong I LOVE THESE GAMES, just want em to work :)

Platform: 3 PCs
PC Manufacturer & Model Number: i7 Alienware AREA51, Alienware M11x R1, Dell Studio XPS16
OS: All running Windows 7 64-bit
Graphics Cards: 2 Radeon HD 6970 in CrossfireX, nVidia 335m, ATI 4650

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Not even sure what you are trying to get at or why you list terribly overpriced Dell machines, but this is Tech Support and I can't find a single question in all this for help. Probably should ask for this to be moved to General.

I'm pretty sure this is just a "feel good e-peen thread". "Hay guyz look at mai grpx crad an mi pee cees thay are 1337!!111"

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Originally Posted by Bigcatman

I'm pretty sure this is just a "feel good e-peen thread". "Hay guyz look at mai grpx crad an mi pee cees thay are 1337!!111"

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Seriously... exactly my thought when reading this xD

Sorry to come off that way guys, hardly braggin about my PCs. Nothing to brag about since I am saying it doesnt work!!
I dont really care if anyone likes my PC because atm I dont like any of them :)
(If anything I can give at least 2 reasons for gamers to stay away from all 3 of these dells, but thats a whole different story.)

I think tech support is a good place for this since I have already spent hours troubleshooting and installing different PC drivers. All my other games can run great but it doesnt matter to me, these PCs are all useless If I cant play SEs MMOs.

I just want to know if anyone is playing XI and XIV on their new PCs w/o trouble or is everyone out there having the same probs. If you are playing both then what is your setup like? Card your using driver, ect.
Is this somthing that SE is going to continue to ignore untill the end of XI. May be this is somthing I should post at the ATI and nVidia sites? Its possable this is out of SEs hands and its somthing that card makers need to address, I dont really know. All I know is its not working for me and it stinks that I can't enjoy XI and XIV from a single PC. Can you?

Turn off Ambient Occlusion and Depth of Field. This will cause killer framedrops in FFXIV since FFXIV isn't properly optimized for PCs.

Additionally, if you want to take advantage of Crossfire mode, always run FFXIV in fullscreen. You probably know this, but I'm just making sure you are since SLI/Crossfire doesn't work in windowed mode for most games.

It's also worth checking out a tool like RadeonPro to optimize the game. Especially if you installed the newest CAP which sometimes disables Crossfire in unstable games.

Sorry it took awhile for me to reply, been playing too much XIV to try XI with Crossfire is off.
XI seems to be working now. My friends came by for an abyssea farming run yesterday. I forced crossfire off and I played about 6 hrs with no freezes. Thanks for the help guys!! I can play both games!!
Best of luck, and thanks again!

EDIT - Froze again, there are a lot of others that have this issue on the XI forums. It seems some have solved it by updating there drivers for audio. I'm just staying away from XI for now since I am on XIV 90% of the time now and it is running great!

Anyway, wanted to update this to keep the people that found there way here from thinking it is an Crossfire issue. Here is a link to the best answer I have found. Good luck.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...FXI-Freezes-PC