I think this game could use a warlock class.

Here's my reason why:

https://i.imgflip.com/11tly0.jpg

And give emerald carbuncle to warlock, please.

Traditional Summoner where summons are just excuses for really big effect spells and nothing stays around?

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Originally Posted by jomoru

Traditional Summoner where summons are just excuses for really big effect spells and nothing stays around?

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This.

It's sad people have to be constantly reminded of what summons in FF games were really like.

That said, here. If you're up for a read, I tried to make SMN even more like WoW warlocks. And it turned out into even more of a summoner as a result. >.>

if only the summoner........COMMANDED the pet to do all the work , instead of the summoner casting spells....kinda like enkindle but with 75% of the spells... u know summoner summon things to do the work for him/her....u are there to help, no the other way around , u can heal it , buff it to do more dmg ...the summon should do 80% of the dmg and smn 20%...

if SE implements BST i hope is has more synergy with the beast .....

I personally like summoner the way it is now. The way it was in ffxi was very boring to me. Not to mention the way you guys want it would give another reason for lazy players to be even more lazy and get away with it to.

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Originally Posted by jomoru

Traditional Summoner where summons are just excuses for really big effect spells and nothing stays around?

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Everyone knows traditional summoner is FFXI summoner. Nevermind that Rydia was a BLM, or that Garnet, Eiko, and Yuna were your healers. It's all about FFXI's version. The job is not allowed to change from game to game.

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

Everyone knows traditional summoner is FFXI summoner. Nevermind that Rydia was a BLM, or that Garnet, Eiko, and Yuna were your healers. It's all about FFXI's version. The job is not allowed to change from game to game.

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In FFXI everyone had subjobs... summoner there wasn't a pure summoner either, they could sub with whm or blm. Also FFV had summoners and a job system.

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Originally Posted by Lillia

In FFXI everyone had subjobs... summoner there wasn't a pure summoner either, they could sub with whm or blm. Also FFV had summoners and a job system.

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I'd actually say more often than not in XI your summoner was your healer lol. Summoner is allowed to be varied in playstyle from game to game. I find the whole "traditional summoner" notion to be very silly.

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

I'd actually say more often than not in XI your summoner was your healer lol. Summoner is allowed to be varied in playstyle from game to game. I find the whole "traditional summoner" notion to be very silly.

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Yeah, I mean theres a lot of non-traditional things varied in a few FFs. I think the way SMN is here suits it but I definitely cannot wait for the pet glams. :D