Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

Taking WHM weapon as an example, but it's really all the same:

Seraph Cane (Item Level 210) requires:
• Antiquated Seraph Cane - 490 Esoterics
• Illuminati Gobdip - One run of Void Ark for a Mhachi Farthing
* Can be earned in a leisurely afternoon

Majestas (Item Level 210) requires:
• Seraph Cane Awoken - Grinding of various lengths depending on whether you had a Zodiac Zeta or not
• 16 expensive crafted items - Average of 1 million gil for the whole set on Masamune (MUCH more expensive on most other servers)
• 80 Unidentified items - 27,200 Esoterics and 27,200 Poetics, or around 700 runs of Alexander Gordias, or other equally grindy methods
* Still nowhere near it after several months.

Twenty-seven thousand two hundred Esoterics. And that's only half of it, sorry, half of ONE PART of it.

Let that sink in for a while.


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Done?

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OK. Why the hell hasn't this been eased with the addition of a new stage?

You could have made this more accessible by ANY (or several) of these methods:
- Reducing the number of Unidentified items required for the quest items (down from 20 each)
- Reducing costs of Unidentified items from shops (Allied Seals, Esoterics, Poetics, beast tribe currencies)
- Reducing the number of Precision Gordian Parts required to obtain Unidentified items, or increasing the drop rate of Precision Gordian Parts.
- Increasing the drop rate of Unidentified items from maps
- Reducing the amount of crafted items required for trade-in
- Improving the availability of ingredients used in the crafted items
- Lifting the HQ requirement for crafted items.

Someone needs to answer for this.

The crafted items needs to be 1 ea for all 4 hand in imo, the 20 tokens i think are ok considering how long its taken me to build up tokens and what not.

Then just don't do it and be happy with your Seraph Cane.
Though you can't upgrade it in 3.25/3.3.. But you'll be also happy with your lore weapon then.

It's like you can get several mounts for free in the msq, but you need to farm for others.
Lower the amount of runs per tank, because Chocobo is free @lvl 15 and lion needs 200 runs??? Unfair and maladjusted!!!

You get one weapon every tier for 'low' costs (with current currency), one for raid and one for much time investment.

and with the tome weapons next week and since the dark gobdip drops in a7s it might be obtainable from the new void
and the next step will be a whole month after 3.3
even some of the tomes weapons has a much better stats than the relic imo

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Originally Posted by YISUG

and with the tome weapons next week and since the dark gobdip drops in a7s it might be obtainable from the new void
and the next step will be a whole month after 3.3
even some of the tomes weapons has a much better stats than the relic imo

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Well for me the Monk relic is better then Lore, i cant do savage atm so the relic for my monk is the better option now i dont have monk lv 60 so i got ages to do it and honestly A1 and A2 are easy, just spend beast tribe tokens on A3 and A4 The only road block for me is the hefty 6 million i need for all 16 crafted items.

I enjoy my relics... they more than worth the effort for me. This new stage is easy peesy.

I'm still only partway done with the unidentifieds. ~43/80.

Why does it need to be eased? It's a trade-off. The i210 Esoteric weapon is now a lot easier to obtain, but it can't be upgraded any further. The i210 Anima is a lot of work, but the i230 step is incredibly easy and can potentially be done in a day if you no-life your way through it. The longest it'll take most casual players is a week and some change if they do the weekly twice and do any roulette that give Eso tomes every day. By comparison, if you don't want to do a relic but still want a 230+ weapon you either need to spend seven weeks doing A8 or have a good enough group to do A8S. Pick your poison I guess, but sooner or later Anima is likely to become the best weapon you can get your hands on if it goes anything like Zeta.

then it gets tossed for 10% off your next ungodly grind...

What's the point being so obssessed?

relics are supposed to be grindy and hard to get thats what makes it unique , if you don't like the grind then relic isn't for you in my opinion