SMN Can Still Bring the Pain

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Weren't they averaging like 260k before the nerf?

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Originally Posted by Renault

Weren't they averaging like 260k before the nerf?

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yup lmao

Damage dealt is mostly padded numbers when it comes to SMN; it's hard to see damage dealt where it really matters (getting a kill, especially against a WHM healer) when the game runs it's full duration.

Dot damage is pretty much useless tbh. Same with a lot of their AoE moves. It's all just padded damage. It doesn't matter if your deathflare hits 3 ppl, when the meele and tank being clipped are at full hp to begin with.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Dot damage is pretty much useless tbh. Same with a lot of their AoE moves. It's all just padded damage. It doesn't matter if your deathflare hits 3 ppl, when the meele and tank being clipped are at full hp to begin with.

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Unless the other healer is a nocturnal astro. It's a lot of healing that needs to be kept up.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Dot damage is pretty much useless tbh. Same with a lot of their AoE moves. It's all just padded damage. It doesn't matter if your deathflare hits 3 ppl, when the meele and tank being clipped are at full hp to begin with.

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Tell that to an ast in noct stance trying to heal his party if the opponents dps are good enough to solo burst each of that ast's dps (while the ast himself is being harassed by tank). It's pretty funny watching the ast spam the shield on each member knowing that one of them is gonna die soon cause the dmg is too spread out.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

if the opponents dps are good enough

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If DPS is good enough the SMN can be literally any job, lol.

Anyway, with the burst nerf, they should nerf one-ilm, either with a cooldown or make stacks immune. Mnk is the only job that can shut down 2 jobs (smn and sch).

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

If DPS is good enough the SMN can be literally any job, lol.

Anyway, with the burst nerf, they should nerf one-ilm, either with a cooldown or make stacks immune. Mnk is the only job that can shut down 2 jobs (smn and sch).

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This is true but my point was that your assumption that the dot and aoe dmg was worthless is false. It still adds pressure on the healer even if it doesn't outright kill them. Especially noct ast healers.

They probably should make aether flow stacks undispellable but that alone won't fix sch. I don't even main mnk in feast, I main drg, and even without one ilm punch to take away the stacks sch is still a joke compared to the other 2 heals to me. Monk isn't even needed to own them they are that inferior to the other 2 heals.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Unless the other healer is a nocturnal astro. It's a lot of healing that needs to be kept up.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Tell that to an ast in noct stance trying to heal his party if the opponents dps are good enough to solo burst each of that ast's dps (while the ast himself is being harassed by tank). It's pretty funny watching the ast spam the shield on each member knowing that one of them is gonna die soon cause the dmg is too spread out.

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Should we really bring this very special case of a noob AST thinking that Noct is still OP and went to use it even after seeing the a SMN is on the other side?