The Praetorium is so messed up place.

Btw I'm new. I try nice say

I played a monk for the first time in The Praetorium from quest.
I almost lost because the players very quickly run like I'm slow .... End l got lucky.

But the next time. I level Machinist, time "Duty Roulette: Main Scenario"
They did the same ... But I forgot how this place. I got longer lost without them.

I said "Wait me" and "Where you guys"
They said me "use shortcuts and quiet your whining" How rude....

I tried shortcuts, no help. Later... I got back with them in Ultima Weapon.


Now I feel The Praetorium is dangerous for new players.
If they don't know where go and lost.

It is a strange balance.

They put in the roulette to get people do do the dungeons in order to help get new people through them.

However that also encourages running it quickly as possible for those doing it every day.

So either wait forever for a queue, or get unfortunately crapped on for not being perfect by DF people.

Sorry dude, it's a known issue, but one that's hard to figure out how to fix.

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Originally Posted by Lethallin

It is a strange balance.

They put in the roulette to get people do do the dungeons in order to help get new people through them.

However that also encourages running it quickly as possible for those doing it every day.

So either wait forever for a queue, or get unfortunately crapped on for not being perfect by DF people.

Sorry dude, it's a known issue, but one that's hard to figure out how to fix.

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The main problem with the Praetorium (assuming I am thinking of the right place) isn't even being crapped on for not being perfect. The DPS checks are blown away regardless.

It's that people who speed run it (IE everyone) will dodge pulls and rush to portals. New players might not know they need a card from one room to use a magitech armor in another. It is very easy to just get left behind if you lose sight of someone for even a second.

Add to that the fact that there are many cutscenes in the Praetorium. Awesome ones. And you will very likely not get to watch them until you retire to an inn later. Anyone watching a cutscene will miss half of the dungeon.

If there is a new player watching cutscenes or say they are new I will stay with them to guide so they don't get lost if everyone runs ahead. The group will be short a healer or tank as that is what I play in these.

I hate when people speed run these when there is a new player trying to experience it for the time. I have been kicked for refusing to stay with the group and stay with the new player to help them.

I don't know what the solution to these are, they added them to the roulette so new players can get through them with out a long wait but then the veterans speed through them for the bonus and don't care about the new players. It is a no win situation.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

If there is a new player watching cutscenes or say they are new I will stay with them to guide so they don't get lost if everyone runs ahead. The group will be short a healer or tank as that is what I play in these.

I hate when people speed run these when there is a new player trying to experience it for the time. I have been kicked for refusing to stay with the group and stay with the new player to help them.

I don't know what the solution to these are, they added them to the roulette so new players can get through them with out a long wait but then the veterans speed through them for the bonus and don't care about the new players. It is a no win situation.

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Ago I said "Hello. I'm first time here" They don't care about it and still running- :/ I died in alone from mods attack as they skipped.

But, next time I can remove cutscenes. Still I can't faster well....

I think the best way to experience castrum/prae is to have a patient level 60 friend unsync it with you. My friend and I turned on cutscenes and duoed it awhile back.. It was quite enjoyable. It's fun to experience it with the cutscenes, but this way, we weren't having to pull in others to wait with us. We were mobbing the entire floors (no skipping) for fun, so it should be possible to solo without too much trouble.

This dungeon needs an overhaul, to better position the cutscenes and to prevent any kind of speed running.

Nah, rather just find someone to unsynch run it with you, like Raela just mentioned.
As a fresh lvl 50 character you get access to the ARR Hunt, pick up both the weekly and daily just one time and you can revamp all but one accesory + belt to i100 and the main quest for your job will have you fully geared to i90 too, only the weapon being what remains.

Get someone else equally or better geared, preferably a Tank or Healer, and you can breeze through the dungeon while watching all cutscenes at your own leisure.

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

This dungeon needs an overhaul, to better position the cutscenes and to prevent any kind of speed running.

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Nothing a few barriers around too-open areas can't fix. That first teleporter should also require keycard access like the others to force fights.

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Originally Posted by raela

I think the best way to experience castrum/prae is to have a patient level 60 friend unsync it with you. My friend and I turned on cutscenes and duoed it awhile back.. It was quite enjoyable. It's fun to experience it with the cutscenes, but this way, we weren't having to pull in others to wait with us. We were mobbing the entire floors (no skipping) for fun, so it should be possible to solo without too much trouble.

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We ran them as a FC team for one of our new members synced to minimum item level. One of my best dungeon experiences in this game so far.