All tanks have lost about 30% of their damage in PvP post 3.2 (estimate)

I don't know the exact numbers of the nerf but Pre 3.2, a full STR War had 797 Attack power and 820 with the party buff.

Post 3.2 I now have 637 attack power with the party buff, estimates to around 22% decrease of just attack power.

Now SE has also nerfed our damage bonus, if you don't know what that is pretty much every section (melee/ranged/caster/tank etc) has an increased flat %+ to damage, I estimate they took tanks from 10%+ to 0%.

Here are some before and afters of fell cleave, all under the same, perfect conditions (buffs) Pre and Post 3.2. The difference is about 30%
http://i.imgur.com/j0bcEYb.jpg

That's still decent damage.

The point of the tank balancing was to bring the divide between tanks damage together, and lower the Base amount so that tanks don't get confused about what their job is (no other job is required by the community to fill two roles). Yes it sucks for War that they are slowly being pulled off their throne, but the changes are healthy to the tanking meta.

In pvp specifically, War was a job that had decent damage and couldn't die easily, there has to be tradeoffs

Great work with the before and after screenshots, this lined up with my back up the envelope math (20% decrease from the VIT change, 10% flat damage decrease from the tank pvp damage bonus nerf).

Warrior was disgustingly OP in its own right and had no business as a tank to do 7.5k Fell Cleaves while having insane sustainability through HP regeneration AND mitigation from tank skills.

While I also hate the fact it was nerfed, as it takes away part of the fun of the class, I can't say it wasn't deserved in some part, much like the AST nerf or the upcoming SMN nerf.

Except that warriors have no mobility and can be cced and blown up by the enemy group regardless of "regeneration and mitigation." And 7.5k? We're talking about seal rock right? And without battle high?

Cmon now. And to even get a 5k plus fell cleave you have to use all cool downs and some dps had to be silly enough to stand still and eat a storms eye and full swing and wait around for the fell cleave instead of just running away.

Exaggerations.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

The point of the tank balancing was to bring the divide between tanks damage together, and lower the Base amount so that tanks don't get confused about what their job is (no other job is required by the community to fill two roles). Yes it sucks for War that they are slowly being pulled off their throne, but the changes are healthy to the tanking meta.

In pvp specifically, War was a job that had decent damage and couldn't die easily, there has to be tradeoffs

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What is the "tanking meta" for pvp? hitting stun and meh pvp group utility with long ass cool downs?

I know why they did it. For pvp and feast. Totally made frontlines not fun though. Guess that doesn't matter since it's a casual pvp mode.

*for pve and feast I meant

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Originally Posted by P4X0R10N

What is the "tanking meta" for pvp? hitting stun and meh pvp group utility with long ass cool downs?

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If tanks actually stunned the people I had to tank it would make my healing life a lot easier since I can't kill anyone now because they took Cleric Stance away. That totally made frontlines not fun. :0

Hem... about -30% damage, but how many HP did you gained?
Also I have a question for WARs, now did you gain same/more/less HP with Equilibrium?
And with Second wind how many HP regeneration did you lost?