dev post and the avatar of shiva

Did we really kill Shiva or just her avatar on our comrade in arms, of Iceheart was merely the avatar of Shiva or was she not so did we truly fight Shiva would be a better question, I'm asking this because on the last part of the Final Fantasy 14 mainline quest series we see a statue of Shiva and is that statue the true Shiva or was on the at open mainline quest the really Shiva at the opening of heavensward

I know many have completed story but you might want to post a Spoiler Warning in your Title. Some people are new and just starting on Heavensward.

You find out the origins and what exactly primals are near the end of the HW storyline.


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Primals are not the actual gods and such that the beastman/summoners are praying to but merely a distortion/shade/ideal, hence why Bismarck destroys islands instead of protecting them, Shiva is what Ysayle believes the real Shiva to be...but is not.

The primal GREG summoned appeared to function differently however.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

You find out the origins and what exactly primals are near the end of the HW storyline.


Spoilers:

Primals are not the actual gods and such that the beastman/summoners are praying to but merely a distortion/shade/ideal, hence why Bismarck destroys islands instead of protecting them, Shiva is what Ysayle believes the real Shiva to be...but is not.

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Hey there, sorry to jinx this thread but I love your Roe. Could you please respond on my request on "Show your Roe!!" thread, please? :p

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Originally Posted by BunnyHop

Hey there, sorry to jinx this thread but I love your Roe. Could you please respond on my request on "Show your Roe!!" thread, please? :p

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What?

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1827650/

Also, I hope you said your goodbyes for the last time, because Ysayle's been dragged down into Oblivion.

Reaper 1, Creatures 0

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Originally Posted by Almalexia

What?

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1827650/

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He has a Roegadyn alt/main which looks really pretty. I want to know how he made that character so I can make a Roe as well and try it out...

Hmm? All of these answers are in the story quests:

The primals are just materialized aetherial manifestations of the fervent prayers of living beings. It is said that primals are created by transferring aether from the crystal mediums using the aether of the praying subjects. As such, they can be recreated infinitely so long as they have both praying subjects and crystals. That also means that these are merely the visual manifestations of something else in the minds of the believers and are completely unrelated to the original beings. Such examples are of the "saint" shiva who was just a powerless human (elezen) and had no such powers of ice, the king thordan, who was just a knight and did not have the noted abilities you see, and the primal Bahumut, while he was a living, powerful dragon, was not the monster you see in Dalamud. Futhermore, this technically means that the twelve (real gods and goddesses or not in the lore) when summoned in the way we see them in the ending of 1.0 are also "primals", but were not given such nomenclature due to propaganda (from your point of view your enemies gods are evil, but yours are not). Likely will be the case with the primal manifestations of the warring triad.