Chances of beating Bismarck HM with a pug group?

Exactly the title.

I tried it once today and it wasn't a very good run, people weren't using the shield or were falling off the island somehow and ragequitting.

It sort of feels like one of those dungeons you need a FC group for, but I'm not sure.

I get it every so often in Roulette and it's hardly a problem. The times people ragequit after one fail, they're usually replaced immediately, even tanks and it goes smoothly. The people quitting after one fail are most likely the ones holding the group back.

Usually ok after 1-2 wipes. Or if lucky 1 and done.

I rarely had "meh" groups there. Either it works great on first/second try or it's a complete disaster...u.U

95% of the time my groups would wipe and rage quit, so I'd say abysmally low.

bismarck df isnt that bad, even extreme mode succeeds in 1 out of 3/4 cases, so hard mode should be way easier

Story mode Bismarck is a cakewalk, even with a few new people I typically one shot it on primal

Got it the other day in trial roulette. Had to DPS my ass off (I was SCH) but we one-shotted it.

I just got it for Trial Roulette and it gives an Echo bonus apparently if you wipe. So it's absolutely easy. You just need to make sure people operate the Dragonkillers when they're up.

The biggest issue with it and Ravana are when you do them. Do it during weekend heavy hours and half the group needs the clear, isn't level capped, barely meets the min ilvl, and doesn't understand anything beyond hitting two buttons. Do it during the week and everyone is there for a roulette bonus, overgeared, and has done it a hundred times before.